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Microsoft Served with Lawsuit Over Live Tiles

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If MS calls them "windows" instead of "tiles"...

Globhead

Oct 31, 2012, 11:28 AM
...will these trolls shut up and go home?
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Tofuchong

Oct 31, 2012, 11:33 AM
It would make sence if they just called them windows.

Or, microsoft could just buy this company, fire everybody, and disband them.

I like the second option better - Patent trolls should be destroyed.
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tzsm98

Oct 31, 2012, 12:19 PM
Protecting your intellectual property does not make you a patent troll, it makes you a prudent inventor. Clowns like the guy who sued Facebook using forged documents - they need to go away.
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tzsm98

Oct 31, 2012, 12:21 PM
Here is the link to the patent involved. Read it. These guys have a point.

http://www.surfcast.com/images/pdfs/US6724403.pdf »
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T Bone

Oct 31, 2012, 12:33 PM
If 'they have a point' then why did they sit on their hands until today? Windows Phone was released 2 years ago and they did nothing.

Frankly, the concept of software patents is a complete joke....if you teach a class in computer programming and ask them to perform a certain task, then 90% of the students will turn in the assignment written in code which is identical....

By education and training, I am a mathematician, I have bounced around from one profession to another due to a variety of factors, but by education and training I am a mathematician....patenting a computer program is as stupid trying to patent a theorem....or trying to patent a proof...this is as dumb as me trying to patent my dissertation....'hey, you can't use the...
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Zpike

Oct 31, 2012, 4:10 PM
I agree whole-heartedly. The whole point of patents is to protect an inventor while he is trying to bring a product to market. These guys patented their idea in the 90's, so where is the product? No product, no patent in my mind. I'm sick of people who do nothing but think up ideas and then patent them knowing that inevitably someone else will actually want to implement them and then they can get paid for doing absolutely nothing. People like that stagnate progress. If these guys had a competing product that made use of the tiles, I could see their point. But since they don't, I hope Microsoft uses its excess billions to bury them.
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Tofuchong

Oct 31, 2012, 4:56 PM
Totally Agree - If they never intended to ever bring a product to market, or hadn't done so within a set amount of time from the patent being granted, it should be invalidated. Just like carriers must deloy / use a certain % of their acquired spectrum in a timefram, or have it revoked.

Obviously, however, that would never happen, becuase it makes perfect sence.
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T Bone

Oct 31, 2012, 9:46 PM
I think it should not be possible to patent an idea.....if you don't have a working prototype and a plan to bring that prototype to market then no patent should be granted.

I mean...why can't I go get a patent on the idea of a car that can fly? Eventually someone is going to invent a car that can fly.....they stole my idea!

Yesterday I heard that Disney bought Lucasfilms and plans to make more Star Wars movies....hey....the last Star Wars movie I saw I walked out and said 'they should make another one',...Disney just stole my idea! I am going to sue!
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tzsm98

Nov 1, 2012, 12:37 PM
Show us where you patented the idea of a sequel and then go get your lawyer. I would have thought a mathematician would have a bit more rigorous thinking going into their replies.

The idea of owning something allows you to control the use. Sometimes that control includes withholding it from market. Reference the way Disney meters out its owned materials or read Dune.

What was patented, if you read it you'd know, was an innovation in displaying information on a screen. If you are for throwing out patents for innovation then so be it. You would be flying in the face of centuries of patent law but I suspect that you don't have a problem with that.
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T Bone

Nov 1, 2012, 2:18 PM
No one can possibly own an idea which is obvious and transparent to the most casual of observers....and that is EXACTLY what software patents are, an attempt to patent something that ANYONE could think of and which is obvious and transparent to all...,.

If I was teaching a class in Computer Programming and asked the class to write a program to perform a bubble sort, 90% or more of the assignments handed in would be identical except for the names of the variables, and even then, I expect there would be very little variation. And the more advanced the students are, the more likely that their projects will all look the same. There will be a great deal of variation with first year students, less variation with seniors, and almost no variati...
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Snapper314

Nov 1, 2012, 12:20 PM
Except that dissertations and theorem are usually not SOLD FOR MONEY; Unique Software and the Code used to render are.

Legitimate Patent Owners should have every right to protect their products. Everything in the world can not be FREE and people who create something in an attempt to make money should be able to safeguard their work & creation.
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T Bone

Nov 1, 2012, 2:25 PM
But the fact that they are not sold for money is not the reason why they can't be patented....the reason they can't be patented is because they are clear and accessible to anyone with the sufficient background. If I give you a class in Differential Geometry and ask you to prove the Gauss Bonnet theorem, whatever you come up with will be pretty much identical, with minor personal idiosyncrasies, to what I would come up with and what Gauss and Bonnet came up with more than a century ago. And it wouldn't be the same because you copied what anybody else did, it would be the same because there is really only one way to do it, or at least there is only one really intuitive and obvious way, any alternative proof is going to be less obvious and in...
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newfoneguy

Nov 1, 2012, 8:25 AM
LOL. Agreed. I say buy the company and fire everyone. Companies that wait on things like this for patent infringement money deserve just that...
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