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Samsung Names iPhone 5 in Latest Anti-Apple Lawsuit

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UI and Trade Dress Patents Samsung is including in the lawsuit

bluecoyote

Oct 2, 2012, 10:26 AM
Sure, it's easy to accuse Samsung of fighting superior hardware design and implementation with cramming a bunch of half-baked-soon-to-be-abandoned features to inflate their spec sheet with ugly UI elements in a ridiculously tacky fake-metal shell, but Samsung actually has an extensive UI and trade dress library including:

-Making a 'bloop' sound every time the screen is tapped
-"Nature Inspired" widgets that are able to show an actual fake landscape over part of your screen
-S-Voice
-Dynamic user interface able to display blue gradients, purple gradients, magenta gradients, *and* fake leather simultaneously.
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T Bone

Oct 2, 2012, 12:22 PM
Speaking of 'half baked and soon to be abandoned features' do you mean things like MobileMe, Ping, iTunes Match or iCloud?
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Haggard

Oct 2, 2012, 1:13 PM
iClouds going to be abandoned? Riiiight. iTunes match is apart of iCloud you know that right? Ping was just a social media offering for musicians and listeners that never took off, iCloud was MobileMe's replacement along with integration of many MobileMe's features.

If you're calling the cloud a half-baked product, you're just a troll then.

What can you come up next? iTunes going to be abandoned too?
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newfoneguy

Oct 2, 2012, 2:27 PM
Lol. yea agreed. icloud and itunes match were by no means "half-baked". These are some of the largely used apple products that apple has been using as a a huge selling point in their commercials. Apple has a name to protect and as much as i'm not a huge apple fanboy i do enjoy using the icloud to sync my ipod touch when i dont feel like (or cant) use my pc too.
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Haggard

Oct 2, 2012, 2:37 PM
Exactly. I love storing all my pictures, applications that I want to back up, along with any notes I type on my phone are backed up there instantly. The iPhone and iPod touch are the only Apple products I have and the simplicity of everything is perfect.
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Tofuchong

Oct 2, 2012, 3:07 PM
I think apple makes very high quality products, and I think the software they produce is the same. IT's always worked for me, and it has worked great. It's the companies mentality that I really, really, don't like. Yeah sure their phones are expensive, overpriced, and over-hyped, but lots of things are. Like the guy that rolls down my street every day in his brand new BMW M3. I hate him, and I don't even know him, just because he has that car. I can tell you that you won't find any active apple users, or BMW drivers, that hate their phone/car, but thats the reason. It boils down to oppinion, and specifically, how nice the product looks, and performs. Obviously, anybody secretly hates their rich friends (as in, they don't have to work...
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T Bone

Oct 3, 2012, 10:35 AM
Well that makes sense to me.....but Haggard called me a liar because I said that I use Apple products but I strongly dislike and tend to be highly critical of Apple as a company and think that the way it does business is generally unethical and that Apple products are in no way 'special' or 'magical' but are just ordinary electronic products just like any other electronics product produced by any other company.....to me it seems pretty simple....I like Android but hate Google, I like Windows and the X Box but I hate Microsoft...I like the iPod Touch....and don't passionately dislike OS X (I can't really say I like OS X but I don't hate it, on my Macbook I now use the OS X more partition than I do the boot camp Windows 7 partition....) but ...
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T Bone

Oct 3, 2012, 10:21 AM
That's the FREE iCloud service, the free service is fine....I use iCloud to back up my iPod Touch....and I've restored it from iCloud once and it went much faster restoring from iCloud than restoring from iTunes.....

But where are the people signing up for the PAID iCloud service? Apple is talking about 150 million people using the FREE iCloud service, but they've never released any numbers for the paid service, and given the way Apple likes to brag about numbers, the fact that they won't release numbers tends to imply that the number is not all that impressive....
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Haggard

Oct 3, 2012, 11:19 AM
You do know that the free service is combined with the paying right? The free service is offered to everyone. The customers who pay for additional service get the free 5GB added to their amount they are paying for.

They have a call at the end of the month, maybe they will announce something there. Companies normally don't announce something when announcing a product saying "here's how many free subscribers use the service, and how many pay for the service for additional space." No one outside of Apple cares. I'd be willing to guarantee they would be turning a profit on the service regardless.
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T Bone

Oct 3, 2012, 9:40 AM
I've never heard of ANYONE using iTunes Match, Google Music is free, and it is a superior product, literally every single person I know, uses Google Music....I've never met anyone who uses iTunes Match...I've never even seen some ONLINE say they use it.....
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ManOfAction

Oct 4, 2012, 12:10 AM
Google music is not a superior product bro. I carry a Galaxy Nexus. I use it occasionally from my phone and computer. iTunes is more intuitive, but neither product is all that great imo.
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T Bone

Oct 3, 2012, 10:11 AM
I've never met anybody who uses iTunes Match....

iCloud is good for backups of iPod Touch but Apple hasn't really done anything with it since it was introduced and I don't exactly see anybody lining up to PAY for the iClooud paid service....


And where were the announcements of new iCloud/iTunes Match offerings at this year's new iPhone roll out? Oh that's right, there wasn't one. If Apple can't even be bothered to build on a 1 year old service, what does that tell you? Introducing a new product, and then never mentioning it again, and not updating or expanding it, that sounds exactly like 'abandonment' to me....

At the one year mark, iTunes Match and iCloud have all the marks of a half finished, soon to be abandoned project...
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Haggard

Oct 3, 2012, 10:45 AM
You do know that iCloud works for iPads and iPhones right? You get 5GB free to store anything that is on your device and continue where you left off on another device.

Just because people around you don't pay for additional cloud space doesn't mean other people don't. You and the people you know aren't the heavy users that have 5GB+ of storage that they can't rely on losing.

They did refinements along with adding support for Passbook. iCloud was established off of MobileMe's features and services genius. For someone that knows everything, you appear to not know anything. iCloud is already built into the OS and does everything that we need it to do, back up entire device, done. Restore everything from back up, done. Find my iPho...
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bluecoyote

Oct 2, 2012, 1:30 PM
MobileMe folded into iCloud and became free for everyone. iCloud is widely used and one of the best perks to Apple's ecosystem, offering things like app setting synchronization between multiple iOS devices and Macs, remote file access, backups, and of course file sync.

Not to mention, the backup + restore is a billion times more effective than anything Android's got (I know from having to hard reset my GNe Shocked x and iPhone 4s.)

The only thing that failed was Ping, and who cares? It was a footnote feature at best.
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Haggard

Oct 2, 2012, 1:50 PM
Hai, don't use facts bro, his opinion>facts. He knows essentially everything about everything, and the facts are wrong.
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srich27

Oct 3, 2012, 7:39 AM
Fortunately for Samsung the suit has nothing to do with bullshit "UI and Trade Dress". Unless something has drastically changed since the last time I read up on the case. LTE patents are tech patents that are far different than 'wah, their phone looks mildly similar to ours'.

Not that I wouldn't prefer these things to simply be licensed out of court. I'm as tired of hearing about the lawsuits as the next guy, but trying to equate the two as you did is trolling at its finest (and as such somehow wasn't surprised when I saw it was you, bluecoyote)

I'm a little curious what Apple offered to pay for the licenses. Assuming they offered to pay anything for them and didn't just slap an LTE radio in their phone assuming they had the right ...
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Haggard

Oct 3, 2012, 8:39 AM
Apple has their own LTE patents as well, so they wouldn't necessarily need to go and use Samsung's licenses without consent.
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srich27

Oct 3, 2012, 10:29 AM
Perfectly true, depending on what aspects of LTE those cover. I find it almost strange how split LTE tech patents seem to be, spread between Apple, Samsung, LG, and others. Though maybe thats a good thing.
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