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Top message:  Reactions... by hepresearch   Sep 28, 2012, 1:35 PM

Replying to:  Re: Reactions... by MarryTheNight   Sep 28, 2012, 4:59 PM

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by hepresearch    Sep 28, 2012, 6:57 PM

MarryTheNight said:

You got a point but neither side is better than the other. iPhone users behave in exactly the same way, sometimes even worse.

Understood... and yes, I know because I have had even worse arguements with iPhone fanboys (who often engaged in personal attacks, cheap insults, and lying in order to get their way with as little provocation as simply seeing that I had posted something pro-Android in the Android forum) in other forums than I ever had here with even the likes of Bluecoyote. My point, however, is that if people just react to each other in the spirit of one-up-manship and combativness, then it doesn't matter who did what first to whom... an open-minded person comes along and comments in a critical but respectful way, and a fanboy responds with nastiness, and soon enough the open-minded folks are closing their minds onto the opposite opinion... they themselves end up becoming no better than the instigators and trolls, and that IS the very definition of "polarization". They become just as polarized as the other guy.

I think people need to be careful... and I don't just mean not feeding the trolls... about how they respond to instigations, and how they deal with combativeness without becoming just as polarized and combative. Saying things like, "well, that other guy started it" is no excuse, and serves only to justify your own further polarization and defensiveness... instead, perhaps one should ignore the combative remark when it first emerges, and then, if the combatant attempts to say something that is less-combative, finally reward them with a non-combative response, or at least an acknowledgment of appreciation for their perspective (whether it is agreed with or not). And, if iPhone fans are who you see as the instigator, then perhaps Android fans (who are often about open-source, and I would hope are similarly open-minded) can try harder to be their better selves by NOT returning the combativeness through a defensive response... instead, rise to a better place in each discussion. If we collectively try harder to do that, then perhaps everyone will eventually start following along.

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