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HeroPsychoDreamer

Mar 3, 2005, 3:18 PM
What's the point of launching an EV-DO card if you don't even offer the service yet and aren't going to for another half a year? Sounds pretty senseless and pointless to me.
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Shoota

Mar 3, 2005, 3:47 PM
sneaky bastards 😡
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evilbstrd666

Mar 3, 2005, 6:42 PM
Because they feel like it.

Because Sprint will do anything they can to make money, even if it screws the customer.

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muchdrama

Mar 3, 2005, 9:23 PM
evilbstrd666 said:
Because they feel like it.

Because Sprint will do anything they can to make money, even if it screws the customer.

😈


Oh, that's a brilliant statement. And what company wouldn't charge extra for added versatility?
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Mar 4, 2005, 2:36 AM
muchdrama said:
evilbstrd666 said:
Because they feel like it.

Because Sprint will do anything they can to make money, even if it screws the customer.

😈


Oh, that's a brilliant statement. And what company wouldn't charge extra for added versatility?


Cingular. They don't charge a penny extra for EDGE.

And yeah yeah, it's not as fast as EV-DO, but it sure does beat GPRS.
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 12:39 PM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
muchdrama said:
evilbstrd666 said:
Because they feel like it.

Because Sprint will do anything they can to make money, even if it screws the customer.

😈


Oh, that's a brilliant statement. And what company wouldn't charge extra for added versatility?


Cingular. They don't charge a penny extra for EDGE.

And yeah yeah, it's not as fast as EV-DO, but it sure does beat GPRS.
I didn't know that. And that's awesome. Who cares if it's not as fast as EV DO? It's offered in a lot more places.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Mar 4, 2005, 12:42 PM
I personally don't care if it's not as fast as EV-DO, but alot of people out there raise hellfire when EV-DO and EDGE are put into the same sentence. EDGE isn't the fastest, but it's fast, and it's good enough for me.
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 12:44 PM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
I personally don't care if it's not as fast as EV-DO, but alot of people out there raise hellfire when EV-DO and EDGE are put into the same sentence. EDGE isn't the fastest, but it's fast, and it's good enough for me.
I've used a Moto v551 and was impressed withe speed of the browser. A definite improvement.

P.S.--You're fun to verbally spar with.
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digitalblade

Mar 3, 2005, 6:48 PM
Let's think about it. What use would it be for Sprint to launch their EV-DO service with no one being able to use it? Getting the equipment out *before* the launch, as soon as EV-DO goes live, there's an instant customer base using the product.

Now those people that already have it share their love of high-speed connectivity with friends and co-workers, and those people come in looking for EV-DO a whole heck of a lot sooner than if they waited to launch the product that goes with the service.

Anyway, as the article said it's 1xRTT compliant so you can still use it now.

Take a look at the gaming community. Sony have games ready to go with their PS2 system launch, where Microsoft only had a couple games for XBox's launch. Which sy...
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BigRob

Mar 3, 2005, 8:10 PM
yea, well Xbox didn't have anything to be backwards compatible to. I'm sure the Xbox2 will be though.
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muchdrama

Mar 3, 2005, 9:27 PM
digitalblade said:
Let's think about it. What use would it be for Sprint to launch their EV-DO service with no one being able to use it? Getting the equipment out *before* the launch, as soon as EV-DO goes live, there's an instant customer base using the product.

Now those people that already have it share their love of high-speed connectivity with friends and co-workers, and those people come in looking for EV-DO a whole heck of a lot sooner than if they waited to launch the product that goes with the service.

Anyway, as the article said it's 1xRTT compliant so you can still use it now.

Take a look at the gaming community. Sony have games ready to go with their PS2 system launch, where Microsoft only had a co
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Inquisitor_Hoth

Mar 4, 2005, 8:53 AM
But in another thought, they already had released a slew of playstation games and a whole bunch playstation ones that are probably showing their age.
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 12:43 PM
Inquisitor_Hoth said:
But in another thought, they already had released a slew of playstation games and a whole bunch playstation ones that are probably showing their age.
But they didn't release PS2 games before the PS2 was available to the public.
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Inquisitor_Hoth

Mar 9, 2005, 10:11 AM
touche... I think i generalized a little too much there. Its actually more like if they released the PS2 before releasing games for it.
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KevC84

Mar 4, 2005, 1:56 AM
Bravo! I couldnt have put it any better. As for the other people they just don't understand. This is a very smart move on Sprint's side. Like you said anyone who has this is a potential customer for EV-DO once it is released plus it also hypes and lets us know that EV-DO is in the very near future. Your good jumping on it now.
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evilbstrd666

Mar 4, 2005, 5:24 PM
Why don't they start selling cars before they make them?

Why not sell teleporters now, while there still is a market for them?

Why not sell the pork roast before the pig is born?

When I buy something, I expect to be able to use it.....
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 11:45 PM
evilbstrd666 said:
Why don't they start selling cars before they make them?

Why not sell teleporters now, while there still is a market for them?

Why not sell the pork roast before the pig is born?

When I buy something, I expect to be able to use it.....
So, you wouldn't mind getting screwed because you were sold a 1xRTT 6 months before the EV DO cards hit market?
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macaddiict

Mar 3, 2005, 6:52 PM
What are you guys griping about? This sounds like a smart, customer-centered decision for once.

Pretend you need a wireless card NOW - and all they have is the normal 1xRTT. So you buy it (there goes a chunk of cash) and in six months a much faster service is out. You'd be torn between having to buy a new card then to replace your old, now outdated card that you only bought six months earlier OR just finish off your contract on the slower 1xRTT.

Most companies would not make the decision to sell a product before they're able to utilize it fully. For example, it is rumored that the upcoming Samsung A800 for Sprint (and many other phones) actually have a chipset *capable* of EV-DO speed, but since Sprint does not have the EV-DO network t...
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muchdrama

Mar 3, 2005, 9:30 PM
macaddiict said:
What are you guys griping about? This sounds like a smart, customer-centered decision for once.

Pretend you need a wireless card NOW - and all they have is the normal 1xRTT. So you buy it (there goes a chunk of cash) and in six months a much faster service is out. You'd be torn between having to buy a new card then to replace your old, now outdated card that you only bought six months earlier OR just finish off your contract on the slower 1xRTT.

Most companies would not make the decision to sell a product before they're able to utilize it fully. For example, it is rumored that the upcoming Samsung A800 for Sprint (and many other phones) actually have a chipset *capable* of EV-DO speed, but since Spr
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KevC84

Mar 4, 2005, 1:59 AM
Like you said. It is rumored.
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muchdrama

Mar 3, 2005, 9:18 PM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
What's the point of launching an EV-DO card if you don't even offer the service yet and aren't going to for another half a year? Sounds pretty senseless and pointless to me.
What does it matter? The card is around the same price as a regular 1xRTT, and when EV DO hits at mid-year...you'll have the card to handle it.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Mar 4, 2005, 2:34 AM
We all have our opinions.
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 12:37 PM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
We all have our opinions.
That's true. And mine makes more sense.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Mar 4, 2005, 12:38 PM
muchdrama said:
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
We all have our opinions.
That's true. And mine makes more sense.


Again, we all have our opinions.
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 12:41 PM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
muchdrama said:
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
We all have our opinions.
That's true. And mine makes more sense.


Again, we all have our opinions.
So...what? It doesn't make sense to offer a 1xRTT card that can be switched over to EV DO so the customer doesn't have to buy two cards in 6 months?
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Mar 4, 2005, 12:46 PM
It doesn't make sense to me to advertise it as an EV-DO card which Sprint may do. Then you're going to have your not so knowledgable consumer buying the EV-DO card, not getting the EV-DO service, then bitching about why they don't have it.

Sure, it does make sense to sell an 1xRTT/EV-DO card. But to advertise it the way I think they are going to, makes no sense to me.
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elihuspeaks

Mar 4, 2005, 1:30 PM
Isn't this whole situation kind of similar to what's going on with wimax? It's only available in a few places in the entire world currently, but some of the major computer companies like Intel are already preparing to release wimax capable devices later this year (maybe as early as second quarter). The idea is that high-end users don't want to have to upgrade their notebooks, etc. when wimax becomes available in their area. I think Sprint is going for the exact same thing here.
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 1:36 PM
elihuspeaks said:
Isn't this whole situation kind of similar to what's going on with wimax? It's only available in a few places in the entire world currently, but some of the major computer companies like Intel are already preparing to release wimax capable devices later this year (maybe as early as second quarter). The idea is that high-end users don't want to have to upgrade their notebooks, etc. when wimax becomes available in their area. I think Sprint is going for the exact same thing here.
A very succinct way of putting it.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Mar 4, 2005, 1:37 PM
But is this the right thing to do? I mean, in a way it seems pretty deceptive.

Sprint starts offering EV-DO cards, the not so knowledgable consumer is going to assume they can make use of EV-DO, eventually they'll figure out that they can't and won't be able to for several months. Then you're going to have them coming into the stores, complaining, bitching, claiming they've been deceived into buying something that cannot use (Motorola V710). Not that it's my problem if it happens, it just appears to be very deceptive to me.
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 1:44 PM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
But is this the right thing to do? I mean, in a way it seems pretty deceptive.

Sprint starts offering EV-DO cards, the not so knowledgable consumer is going to assume they can make use of EV-DO, eventually they'll figure out that they can't and won't be able to for several months. Then you're going to have them coming into the stores, complaining, bitching, claiming they've been deceived into buying something that cannot use (Motorola V710). Not that it's my problem if it happens, it just appears to be very deceptive to me.
Rich explains it best if you read his post. If Sprint's going to sell these cards before the service is up and running, they've got to make it known to custome...
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Mar 4, 2005, 1:46 PM
Well, let's hope Sprint is better at explaining their products to consumers than Verizon Wireless (Moto V710).
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mikesgut

Mar 7, 2005, 5:04 PM
When you're talking about not so knowledgeable consumers, you're not talking about people who have any idea what EV-DO even is. People in Verizon markets that offer EV-DO don't even know what it is or what it means. Sprint is not going to advertise EV-DO as a feature of their network until it is. Personally, I think it is considerate of them to look ahead for their customers like that. They could just as easily sell a 1xRTT card and then resell EV-DO in a year when its out. This way they are pre-building an instant market for a very expensive build-out like EV-DO. Besides, someone who just buys an expensive product like that without some research or atleast a recommendation from a friend who is already using it should be sold an elevat...
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Rich Brome

Mar 4, 2005, 1:18 PM
Well, for someone in the market for a card now, wouldn't it be better to have this option, than to be forced to pay a few hundred bucks for something guaranteed to be obsolete in a few months?

If I were a business customer (which this is clearly aimed at), I'd be pretty pissed if they didn't offer this, since Verizon's launch proves the technology is available and ready for market.

If I'm a corporate customer looking to equip 500 workers with data cards, I'd be much more likely to choose Sprint if they could at least offer EV-DO cards, if not the service right away. If all they would sell me were 1xRTT cards, I'd basically have no choice but to switch to Verizon.

At least this way a $100,000 investment in data cards isn't for...
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 1:39 PM
Rich Brome said:
Well, for someone in the market for a card now, wouldn't it be better to have this option, than to be forced to pay a few hundred bucks for something guaranteed to be obsolete in a few months?

If I were a business customer (which this is clearly aimed at), I'd be pretty pissed if they didn't offer this, since Verizon's launch proves the technology is available and ready for market.

If I'm a corporate customer looking to equip 500 workers with data cards, I'd be much more likely to choose Sprint if they could at least offer EV-DO cards, if not the service right away. If all they would sell me were 1xRTT cards, I'd basically have no choice but to switch to Verizon.

At least this way a $100,0
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phonescoopjunkie

Mar 4, 2005, 1:48 PM
I'm not a fan of Sprint, but I have to say that it is a good move. How many times have we heard people complain because they bought a TDMA phone without being given the option of GSM and then they find out that GSM has been around for a while and they paid 150 for a nokia 2260? I tip my hat to the execs who decided to do this. I'm with you muchdrama.
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 11:44 PM
phonescoopjunkie said:
I'm not a fan of Sprint, but I have to say that it is a good move. How many times have we heard people complain because they bought a TDMA phone without being given the option of GSM and then they find out that GSM has been around for a while and they paid 150 for a nokia 2260? I tip my hat to the execs who decided to do this. I'm with you muchdrama.
Solidarity, baby.
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corys00

Mar 4, 2005, 1:23 PM
Since the launch of Verizon's EV-DO network, I'm selling on average 4-5 EV-DO cards a week, just as a indirect dealer. I can only imagine what the corporate stores are doing here in Orlando. Sprint could be trying to hold off potential customers from getting Verizon's EV-DO package (which is already available to 75 million potential customers)

That's just my opinion, I don't agree with it, it's a pretty deceptive, but then again, why doesn't it surprise me that Sprint is doing it.
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muchdrama

Mar 4, 2005, 1:46 PM
corys00 said:
Since the launch of Verizon's EV-DO network, I'm selling on average 4-5 EV-DO cards a week, just as a indirect dealer. I can only imagine what the corporate stores are doing here in Orlando. Sprint could be trying to hold off potential customers from getting Verizon's EV-DO package (which is already available to 75 million potential customers)

That's just my opinion, I don't agree with it, it's a pretty deceptive, but then again, why doesn't it surprise me that Sprint is doing it.
It's not deceptive in the least if you explain to customers what they'll be able to do once Sprint's EV DO service is up. Like Rich said, this is mainly benefiting business customers.
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Michael1963

Mar 9, 2005, 11:41 AM
Sprint still has the 1xRTT network which the card will work at average speeds 40k-60k. Once, they get EVDO, it will go a lot faster. I am sure that Sprint is doing this to try to catch up to Verizon. Verizon has such a head start, it may be hard for Sprint.

I don't think it will help much.

At EVDOInfo.com, we are keeping an eye on Sprint at the following URL:

http://www.EVDOinfo.com/EVDO/Info/Sprint%27s_EVDO_Co ... »
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