Apple Asks For $707M More in Damages from Samsung
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/22/opinion/nocera-has ... »
We've seen this happen to so many other companies, IBM, Microsoft, RIM......Apple in the mid 80's....
I'm keeping an eye on their new strategy. They keynoted a new direction at the same time of making the WP8 announcement. They want to embrace a more closed ecosystem similar to Apple's. The problem with this is, it works for Apple because they have 30 years of experience with this direction. Microsoft does not. It will be interesting to see how they and their clientele adapt.
John B.
As for WP7, it has some short comings but, nothing that keeps it from being a phone. With WP8, it stands to be a great phone. If the core of the OS is the same as the desktop version, then they will have room to improve where they need to. On another note, despite some of the short comings, it's funny seeing a feature that Droid thinks is new and...
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MarryTheNight said:
Apple is the new Microsoft alright.
Sort of, but Apple has ALWAYS been Microsoft, the difference was in people's reactions. Microsoft bundles a web browser or a media player with their OS, and it's a crime. Apple bundles an OS with a PC, and a music service with an MP3 player (and designs the hardware so it can't be used with competing services), and nobody cares because ooh-she-so-pretty.
Apple - "Hey Samsung, we will share our patents if you share yours to avoid going to court over this, how does that sound?"
Samsung - "No, I think we have a good shot at settling our differences in court..(Hey Dave, did you delete those emails with notes saying to copy the iPhone in pretty much every possible way?)
The problem is not that Apple is trying to enforce patents. The problem is that so many of their claims are BS.
$30 per smartphone, $40 per tablet.
Far less than the billion in damages that they owe Apple now and possibly even more.
The claims aren't BS when Samsung was caught red handed with documents saying to copy the iPhone. Facts is facts, sorry you don't like to take them into consideration.
1) that the Califonia verdict is final
2) the fact that Samsung wanted to make their phones like iphone means they're guilty.
This isn't the way patent law works. If you didn't originate something you can't patent it. You also can patent obvious things.
Even if Apple originated a single one of the items in these patents (they didn't) they would have a tough go in court.
Think of all the store brand packaging that's clearly based on name brand packaging. Is that violating trade dress and design patents?
There has to be substantial similarity, so much so that an average observer would purchase one thinking it was the other.
I don't know if you work in the industry or not, bu...
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20M * $30 = $600M just by itself.
Add in all the Tabs and other GS generations and the billion dollars still turns out to be the cheaper option. All this certainly hasn't negatively affected their sales either.
Really hasn't affected either companies sales, as most normal people really don't care.
For Samsung, agreeing to that would be admitting that Apple is right, when clearly they are not.
Also, Apple's figure that they want to pay to license Samsung's patents is $0.0049 per patent per phone.
Apple wants Samsung to pay them licensing fees of over $30 per phone.
No real surprise that Samsung wouldn't agree to this.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120726121 ... »
Apple even offered Samsung discounts on various licenses as well.
Great thinking though, instead of agreeing, they lost the lawsuit and are about to lose a billion dollars and possibly more..
I'd think it's a good idea to admit you were in the wrong instead of showing up to court with documents showing you blatantly copied...
What Apple wanted as a licensing agreement from Samsung is ridiculous.
Samsung won't have to pay Apple a penny.
Samsung has lots of grounds for an appeal, which will be granted if the judge doesn't just throw out the verdict first. If that happens then Apple will appeal.
The California trial is just a goof, the only thing it proves is that the US should join the rest of the world and not let juries try patent cases.
The submitted comparision shots of the iPad and Galaxy Tab, with the Tab altered to have the same aspect ratio is the iPad, which it does not.
They also submitted doctored photos of the Galaxy S II as evidence where they changed the sise and modified the homescreen to make it appear more iPhone like.
Evil empire? Oh yeah.
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