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Apple and Google CEOs Discussing Patent Resolutions

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You don't negotiate with terrorists Google

MrGuder

Aug 30, 2012, 1:53 PM
That's what Apple is when you think about it. They want to be the only smartphone maker and use iTunes as the Koran. Look at this training manual:

http://gizmodo.com/5938323/how-to-be-a-genius-this-i ... »

Their workers are taught to study human behaviors and mind manipulation. Who know rubbing your nose and looking sideways is "suspicious". Wow, really Apple? lol Sick mofo's I'm telling you.
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bluecoyote

Aug 30, 2012, 2:42 PM
Cool story bro
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Haggard

Aug 30, 2012, 3:05 PM
Rolling Eyes
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Tofuchong

Aug 30, 2012, 3:19 PM
I'm sure they don't have a training manual that looks like THAT. That is ridiculous. I mean, I wonder what it says in there about people who wear eye-patches. Would you even want to know ?! They might hate you just because of your patch! (which I think is awesome) I'm just assuming you are your picture, and that you wear that eye-patch everywhere you go.
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T Bone

Aug 30, 2012, 3:49 PM
I'm not a fan of Google by any means, but at least Google isn't waging a war of aggression against its rivals, their war is purely defensive....they are content to simply live and let live and to try to win the smartphone war on specs, features and innovation, not by bullying and intimidation like Apple...
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Haggard

Aug 30, 2012, 4:04 PM
Motorola is currently attempting to sue Microsoft on 360 using Wi-Fi patents as well as H.264 patent and attempting to sue Apple as well for various patents (that are standard patents in regards to FRAND), they aren't being any different with their patents either.
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Haggard

Aug 30, 2012, 4:14 PM
All in all, our patent office is a joke and it needs to be completely redone.

Find invalid patents that were issued and find a way to resolve them.
Only submit valid patents that have never been used before.

FRAND patents must be enforced at a reasonable price so it is actually viable for companies to afford the costs to sell products to make a profit so everyone wins.
There needs to be a thorough process to review patents so they aren't just looked at for a second and easily passed through.

Companies who just stock pile on patents, never release a product utilizing the patents in any form and then attempting to sue any company that uses those patents just to get a quick profit need their patents stripped.
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Haggard

Aug 30, 2012, 4:16 PM
All in all, both companies are poop heads. Mad
Both can come up with great devices, but they will never see eye to eye about anything.
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T Bone

Aug 30, 2012, 4:52 PM
Yes, but those are pretty standard lawsuits in the corporate world, company A sues company B as a negotiating tactic to force the company to agree to a licensing fee.....happens all the time ....

Apple actually wants to annihilate its competitors...Apple has rejected offers to license its patents and responded to requests by filing lawsuits demanding products be removed from store shelves permanently....

Ultimately, Google, Microsoft etc simply want to find a way to make a little extra money by licensing its patents to its competitors...Apple alone is seeking to completely remove its competitors from the market entirely...
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Versed

Sep 1, 2012, 1:24 AM
I totally agree, but if they can come out with some cross license deal between the two, all the better. This is not unheard of with Apple. In the 90's they did it with Microsoft.
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T Bone

Sep 1, 2012, 9:06 AM
Well, the most famous example is when Apple sued Microsoft for copying 'the look and feel' of the Macintosh...then Xerox turned around and sued Apple for copying 'the look and feel' of their own computers....and the funny thing is there was a much stronger basis for the Xerox suit than there was for the Apple one....although ultimately both were dismissed, I think correctly...
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Haggard

Sep 2, 2012, 8:26 AM
What Motorola is attempting to do is ban the Xbox 360 in the US, they have so far managed to get the 360 and Windows 7 banned in Germany. If they ban the 360 from the states, that'll hurt Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't want to negotiate terms until Motorola lowers their price on the patents because they are wanting an insane amount.

Apple offered their shared of licenses to Samsung and Microsoft, Microsoft accepted and well, we know what happened to Samsung.
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T Bone

Aug 30, 2012, 4:00 PM
As much as I would love to bash Apple that training manual sounds like typical corporate jibber jabber
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Tofuchong

Aug 30, 2012, 4:26 PM
I work at a Call centre that is full of corporate jargon, bureaucracy, and jibber jabber all over the place. I've had over 8 weeks of training here as well, but never, ever, have I seen anything that personal, or that suspicious. Microsoft has officially vacated their seat at the top of the Evil Empire. Apple be movin' on in.
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T Bone

Aug 30, 2012, 4:44 PM
The part where they are told to never apologize is very weird.....every corporate manual I have ever seen tells you to apologize for pretty much everything..'oh your coffee's cold? Oh I apologize for that....'
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Willwise

Aug 31, 2012, 5:58 PM
It is actually a pretty typical, customer service practice. To replace sympothy with empothy (knowing full well both words a misspelled but moving on anyways) The stupid thing is both these companies should be very happy with their share of the smartphone market. Palm is a thing of the past soon to be followed by windows mobile and blackberry (with the exception of business accoutns) In the last four years the smart phone world has changed drasticaly. Just wish all these dumb law suites would stop. Hopefully these talks end with an agreement but it is more likely to end in a fist fight than the two companies ever seeing eye to eye.
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T Bone

Aug 31, 2012, 8:32 PM
You're right that it just standard corporate boiler plate....except for the part where they are told to never admit a problem exists and to never apologize.....that stuff is quite unique to Apple...
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Jayshmay

Aug 30, 2012, 5:41 PM
You guys are cracking Laughing me up!!!

Unfortunately no matter how bad of a company
Apple is, whether it's .17ยข/hr Chinese labor,
or being a patent troll, all consumers care about
is the fruit on the back of their phone, it's a status
symbol.
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planethulk

Aug 30, 2012, 8:35 PM
You do realize that Google is and has always been DARPA since its inception? As a matter of fact, you can even Google recent articles that outline how Federal Courts have ruled that the NSA and Google do NOT have to release information about how they work together to the public. The truth is that the very first day Apple gets to big for its britches so to speak, we're going to magically see Congress call for hearings on the Apple monopoly. I don't think Google has anything to worry about with Apple.
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Willwise

Aug 31, 2012, 6:00 PM
Could you define DARPA? Maybe I've been in wireless too long but to me that menas Data Average Revenue Per Account.
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Joshmo

Sep 4, 2012, 10:02 AM
It's a department of the gov that specializes in developing technology for use by the military.
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