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KevC84

Jan 31, 2005, 6:48 PM
Ok this is an excerpt of an article I read online:

Because SBC and AT&T must continue to compete as if their merger may not occur, AT&T indicated it will proceed with plans to launch its own brand of cell phone service this year.

In an interesting twist, the new AT&T Wireless will compete directly with Cingular Wireless. Cingular recently became the nation's biggest cell phone company with 49.1 million subscribers by acquiring acquired the old AT&T Wireless, which AT&T Corp. spun off as an independent company in 2001.

AT&T doesn't own a wireless network, so it had struck a deal to use Sprint Corp.'s cellular system. AT&T executives declined to say whether that deal would stand or whether they might now seek to forge an agreement t...
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AWS_GUY2

Jan 31, 2005, 7:58 PM
AT&T never sold the name AT&T Wireless so Cingular would not have been able to keep that as the name of the new company, that name went back to AT&T. In regards to the UMTS Cingular is rolling it out across the network hopefully around 2006, 2007.

~Brandon, now cingular guy.
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SPCSVZWJeff

Jan 31, 2005, 8:04 PM
Being an MVNO gives AT&T the best of both worlds. They get a wireless revenue stream without the expense of maintaining a network. In essence they become a retailer of airtime. This makes a lot of sense, so much sense that they are only 1 of many companies who will become MVNO's.
Cingular's current GSM network could not support an MVNO as well as their own traffic. When they build out UMTS they will be able to support this.
The company that must be smiling is Verizon. This just cleared the way for them to acquire Alltel, Sprint-Nextel or both. If the DOJ approves this one they can't say no to Verizon.
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muchdrama

Jan 31, 2005, 9:11 PM
The company that must be smiling is Verizon. This just cleared the way for them to acquire Alltel, Sprint-Nextel or both. If the DOJ approves this one they can't say no to Verizon.
You speculate.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 31, 2005, 9:53 PM
muchdrama said:
The company that must be smiling is Verizon. This just cleared the way for them to acquire Alltel, Sprint-Nextel or both. If the DOJ approves this one they can't say no to Verizon.
You speculate.

Seems to be his greatest talent: speculation.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 31, 2005, 9:51 PM
FCC has said no to Verizon several times.
It probably will again.
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RUFF1415

Jan 31, 2005, 10:01 PM
You're way off base. Verizon's reaction to SBC purchasing AT&T will undoubtedly be to purchase MCI Corp. Buying other wireless carriers is irrelevant to this issue. Verizon is nearly on par with Cingular's size. The only thing they need to keep up with is SBC's will-be long distance network and their massive business base. After this purchase, SBC will only be slightly larger than Verizon Communications.
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pcrisp07

Jan 31, 2005, 10:03 PM
How could Cingular not be able to support a MVNO if they have all of the spectrum (well most of it anyways) aquired by the merger, and with regards to the top statement, AT&T was broken down into the four bell companies (SBC Bell South AT&T and Verizon) in 1984 when the FCC ended deregulation. Now that the Republicans have office now deregulation is back, That is how Cingular was allowed to aquire ATTW and is how SBC will aquire AT&T. There are even rumors about SBC buying Bell South as early as 2006, making them the larges local phone company and the largest long distance provider as well as owning 100% of Cingular wireless the nations larges cellular service company.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 31, 2005, 10:23 PM
Don't listen to him. He seems to think that Cingular/GSM/SBC couldn't blow their own noses.
He's got Verizon/Sprint shoved so far up his rump that he coughs up cdma chips.

Jeff consistently does 2 things on this forum:

1. Over-exaggerate the capabilities of Sprint/Verizon.
2. Downplays the capabilities of their competitors.

He usually takes a small snippet of the truth and runs a marathon with it. I usually have to use my B.S.-o-meter when I read his posts.
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AtTheMet

Feb 1, 2005, 1:49 AM
SPCSVZWJeff said:
Being an MVNO gives AT&T the best of both worlds. They get a wireless revenue stream without the expense of maintaining a network. In essence they become a retailer of airtime. This makes a lot of sense, so much sense that they are only 1 of many companies who will become MVNO's.
Cingular's current GSM network could not support an MVNO as well as their own traffic. When they build out UMTS they will be able to support this.
The company that must be smiling is Verizon. This just cleared the way for them to acquire Alltel, Sprint-Nextel or both. If the DOJ approves this one they can't say no to Verizon.


For General knowledge, Cingular currently supports an MNVO, 7-Eleven's Prepaid servic...
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Shoota

Feb 1, 2005, 11:16 AM
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very nice indeed... muhaha
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SPCSVZWJeff

Feb 1, 2005, 11:29 AM
Yes I know that. Every carrier on the cellular band sells to tracfone. Being a pre-paid company that markets to the wireless shy community they are not really going to bump up the usage on a network.The issue I was really bringing up is that being an MVNO is a good deal for AT&T.

The sidebar issue, that a GSM network could not support the traffic of a host of MVNO companies as well as its own traffic is nonetheless true.

A UMTS network will be able to support all of the carrier's traffic and a bunch of MVNO traffic as well.
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