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BlackBerry 10 Delayed Until 2013

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lol

Haggard

Jun 28, 2012, 3:44 PM
Just give up RIM.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 28, 2012, 3:57 PM
Haggard said:
Just give up RIM.


You weren't going to buy one anyway. Why do you care? Rolling Eyes
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Tofuchong

Jun 28, 2012, 4:04 PM
Competition is a good thing ! Options, and innovation are a good thing. RIM going under is a bad thing.

They may not make great phones, but their software and their Ideas are great.
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T Bone

Jun 28, 2012, 8:06 PM
Actually, you have that backwards, the software is so so but the hardware has always been excellent....which is why Blackberries have the lowest 'hardware failure rate' in the business...

The software on the other hand tends to be slow, buggy and prone to frequent crashes....and I mention that just to point out that even though I am a Blackberry person I do have a realistic attitude....I'm not a realistic fanboy who thinks RIM is perfect....
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Vmac39

Jun 28, 2012, 8:42 PM
Tbone, I understand and relate to your decision on upgrading. I had a very similar experience two years ago. Having owned an older BB and like you, I wanted to stick with BB. Everything you pointed out about the OS is true and it made me think really hard about what I wanted.

I would say, wait until fall, really play around with the new WP8, iOS6 and Android phones and see which on comes closest to the features you like in BB. Im sure this isn't something you dont already know.

For me, WP has been a good choice but, I dont know how WP8 will be since they are using an OS that shares the same architecture of Windows 8. That can work in one of two ways in my opinion. Either, it will make the desktop OS more reliable or make WP8 less relia...
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bansheeboyz

Jun 29, 2012, 5:28 PM
The bb 9930 is a solid phone, no major problems that I have noticed...this phone is what makes blackberry great
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Haggard

Jun 28, 2012, 4:17 PM
Too many issues going on at once and now this, if they keep delaying they may never see the chance of releasing this.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 28, 2012, 4:38 PM
Haggard said:
Too many issues going on at once and now this, if they keep delaying they may never see the chance of releasing this.


BS

RIM has only begun losing money after years of profits. More than 2 billion in cash on hand they need to burn through. Many companies go through years of losses at different points and still stay around. The company is still adding subscribers.

Layoffs, restructuring are all part of reorganizing.
Public companies simply can't "give up" unless it's determined that it's in the shareholders best interest. All of that is being explored by the company.

Often when you reorganize something, it's more of a mess until its cleaned up in the end. The media is doing their ty...
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pfs2009

Jun 28, 2012, 5:52 PM
You can only get bad results for so long before your best efforts stop mattering.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 28, 2012, 6:48 PM
pfs2009 said:
You can only get bad results for so long before your best efforts stop mattering.


True, there is a limit for any company. That limit is very different depending on how strong or weak they were going into this. RIM just came off of some massively strong years so that limit will be much longer than a company like Palm
who limped along for years in much worse shape.

Remember RIM is STILL gaining worldwide subscribers, they are in the middle of reorganizing an admittedly bloated company into something profitable. Being profitable or even relevant isn't about market share. Google has huge market share but don't make much at all on their OS.
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T Bone

Jun 28, 2012, 6:56 PM
And Apple has huge PROFITS with much smaller market share...

Seriously....people who obsess about 'market share' are people who understand very little about business....


The key is profitability, NOT market share...it is better to have a 1% market share and be profitable than to have 99% market share and losing money...

Apple has about 5% of the computer market, and yet they are profitable.....HP has like 40% of the PC market, and yet they are losing money....who would you rather be?

Pepsi Cola is second in market share to Coke, yet they make billions in profit every year....so who cares if they aren't #1? Not the stockholders I'm sure.

Blockbuster had more than 90% market share in home video rentals, and they filed for bank...
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Fist Pump

Jun 28, 2012, 4:41 PM
Almost feel bad for them. They are sinking and all you can do is wait for it to fully be sunk!
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T Bone

Jun 28, 2012, 6:59 PM
All the people cheering for RIM to fail....will they be happy when all we have is iPhone and Android and all our choices are gone? I doubt it.
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HawkeyeOC

Jun 28, 2012, 7:48 PM
Fist Pump said:
Almost feel bad for them. They are sinking and all you can do is wait for it to fully be sunk!


Well, you are one up on the rest of them. Most of these guys are dressed up in cheerleading outfits shouting "RIP RIM!!" Rolling Eyes
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