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Verizon Wireless Sued Over V710 Bluetooth Limitations

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Idiots.....all of VZW customers

gjh311

Jan 20, 2005, 10:34 AM
You all have too much speculative time on your hands...plain and simple...you got a crappy phone....so what....if you read the VZW website...and had done your research....it does say what bluetooth profiles are supported.....so get a life and quit your complaining.
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muchdrama

Jan 20, 2005, 11:59 AM
gjh311 said:
You all have too much speculative time on your hands...plain and simple...you got a crappy phone....so what....if you read the VZW website...and had done your research....it does say what bluetooth profiles are supported.....so get a life and quit your complaining.
Pretty much the gist of what I was saying.
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sciguy37

Jan 20, 2005, 12:10 PM
What do you tell those people who don't have the internet and the sales people tell them that there has not been anything disabled?
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akaszuba

Jan 20, 2005, 12:14 PM
You tell them that some sales people dont know what they're talking about. Just because a person wear a shirt with VZW's logo on it doesnt mean they know everything about the product, obviously, considering some people believed VZW's sales personel.

But the fact is, if they did their own research on the product, there wouldn't be a problem.

Just go back and read all of muchdrama's posts. I have yet to read anything of his on this topic that doesnt make perfect sense.
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lordrevan05

Jan 20, 2005, 4:07 PM
Twisted Evil If you want a true BLUETOOTH xapable phone not disabled by the company you buy it from come on over to CINGULAR Very Happy
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sciguy37

Jan 20, 2005, 4:09 PM
I would honestly love to but I tried them in the places that I go and it does not work.... I often go to Lake Ariel Pa and I get no reception....
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sciguy37

Jan 20, 2005, 4:10 PM
Its also not the bluetooth but the PC connectivity that I want
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shadedpain4

Jan 20, 2005, 12:18 PM
sciguy37 said:
What do you tell those people who don't have the internet and the sales people tell them that there has not been anything disabled?


And again, who are these people that *need* full bluetooth functionality and don't have access to the internet?
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Stevo2k4

Jan 20, 2005, 12:55 PM
shadedpain4 said:
sciguy37 said:
What do you tell those people who don't have the internet and the sales people tell them that there has not been anything disabled?


And again, who are these people that *need* full bluetooth functionality and don't have access to the internet?


They don'e exist... or wait maybe they do, I think I remember now, they were short little people and they showed a girl from kansas how to go along some kind of a brick road, yellow maybe... Nah... they definately don't exist.
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sciguy37

Jan 20, 2005, 1:15 PM
The problem with the know it alls like us is that we assume everyone in the world can do the research. My parents go on the internet but are not as savvy as I am and have a hard time doing stuff like that. I myself did not buy the phone because I did more than the average research. If you call Motorola they tell you that the phone has not been disabled by Verizon, in fact I wish I did not erase it but I had an email from them stating that fact. Verizon tells you the same thing. The website tells you that you can connect anywhere at any time. Its not until you go 4 or 5 pages deep do you find out the real truth.
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shadedpain4

Jan 20, 2005, 1:24 PM
sciguy37 said:
The problem with the know it alls like us is that we assume everyone in the world can do the research. My parents go on the internet but are not as savvy as I am and have a hard time doing stuff like that. I myself did not buy the phone because I did more than the average research. If you call Motorola they tell you that the phone has not been disabled by Verizon, in fact I wish I did not erase it but I had an email from them stating that fact. Verizon tells you the same thing. The website tells you that you can connect anywhere at any time. Its not until you go 4 or 5 pages deep do you find out the real truth.


Your parents are probably not itching for bluetooth on thier phone either...

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Stevo2k4

Jan 20, 2005, 1:45 PM
sciguy37 said:
The problem with the know it alls like us is that we assume everyone in the world can do the research. My parents go on the internet but are not as savvy as I am and have a hard time doing stuff like that. I myself did not buy the phone because I did more than the average research. If you call Motorola they tell you that the phone has not been disabled by Verizon, in fact I wish I did not erase it but I had an email from them stating that fact. Verizon tells you the same thing. The website tells you that you can connect anywhere at any time. Its not until you go 4 or 5 pages deep do you find out the real truth.


I know I sounded like an ass, but the point still stands. Now it doesn't make it...
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shadedpain4

Jan 20, 2005, 1:22 PM
Stevo2k4 said:
shadedpain4 said:
sciguy37 said:
What do you tell those people who don't have the internet and the sales people tell them that there has not been anything disabled?


And again, who are these people that *need* full bluetooth functionality and don't have access to the internet?


They don'e exist... or wait maybe they do, I think I remember now, they were short little people and they showed a girl from kansas how to go along some kind of a brick road, yellow maybe... Nah... they definately don't exist.


Actually the mayor of said people lives in my town....
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Stevo2k4

Jan 20, 2005, 1:46 PM
shadedpain4 said:
Stevo2k4 said:
They don'e exist... or wait maybe they do, I think I remember now, they were short little people and they showed a girl from kansas how to go along some kind of a brick road, yellow maybe... Nah... they definately don't exist.


Actually the mayor of said people lives in my town....


WHAAA?!?! Buy him a drink for me... I sure would...

~Steve
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phonescoopjunkie

Jan 20, 2005, 1:49 PM
I think there are only 2 or 3 munchkins left. I went to Liberal, KS about 3 years ago, they have have an Oz parade and the munchkins are the Grand Marshalls.
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sciguy37

Jan 20, 2005, 4:00 PM
All I want in a phone is the ability to transfer ringtones and mhy pictures to and from my computer. The 710 sounded like the answer. I hear now that they also disabled the TF card from doing this but I hear both sides on that one here on this site. I need a new phone and Verizon told me that they are stopping this on all their phones..... Can someone reccomend a Tri-mode that I can do this on since the 710 is not an option.
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muchdrama

Jan 20, 2005, 8:36 PM
sciguy37 said:
All I want in a phone is the ability to transfer ringtones and mhy pictures to and from my computer. The 710 sounded like the answer. I hear now that they also disabled the TF card from doing this but I hear both sides on that one here on this site. I need a new phone and Verizon told me that they are stopping this on all their phones..... Can someone reccomend a Tri-mode that I can do this on since the 710 is not an option.
I'm not sure Verizon is an option for you at all with your complaints about Verizon's oppressive "Get It Now" data model. Oh, wait...you signed a contract with Verizon without paying attention to the fine print just like every other nitwit suing them right now. Better luc...
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sciguy37

Jan 20, 2005, 9:46 PM
Why not answer the question and keep your vitrialic tongue to yourself.
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muchdrama

Jan 20, 2005, 9:53 PM
sciguy37 said:
Why not answer the question and keep your vitrialic tongue to yourself.
You're not deserving of a recommendation.

P.S. It's "vitriolic".
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sciguy37

Jan 20, 2005, 11:13 PM
Sorry for the Typo... I bow to your pomposity
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muchdrama

Jan 21, 2005, 9:15 AM
sciguy37 said:
Sorry for the Typo... I bow to your pomposity
You're forgiven.
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shadedpain4

Jan 21, 2005, 10:55 AM
sciguy37 said:
Why not answer the question and keep your vitrialic tongue to yourself.


Actually he did answer your question by pointing out if this feature is important to you, then Verizon Wireless is probably not the carrier for you.
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muchdrama

Jan 21, 2005, 12:11 PM
shadedpain4 said:
sciguy37 said:
Why not answer the question and keep your vitrialic tongue to yourself.


Actually he did answer your question by pointing out if this feature is important to you, then Verizon Wireless is probably not the carrier for you.
Aw, man...you went and spoiled my fun. He's so much more fun when he's clueless.
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shadedpain4

Jan 21, 2005, 2:26 PM
muchdrama said:
shadedpain4 said:
sciguy37 said:
Why not answer the question and keep your vitrialic tongue to yourself.


Actually he did answer your question by pointing out if this feature is important to you, then Verizon Wireless is probably not the carrier for you.
Aw, man...you went and spoiled my fun. He's so much more fun when he's clueless.


Im nothing if not a killjoy
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muchdrama

Jan 20, 2005, 8:26 PM
sciguy37 said:
What do you tell those people who don't have the internet and the sales people tell them that there has not been anything disabled?
Who are you talking about? The handful of employess that were trained incorrectly or were unethical? You act if this was a big conspiracy implemented by men from mars. EVERY company has employees that aren't the best at what they do. But the information about the v710 wasn't hidden...the customers could have easily figured out their product with a little light reading. You're and X-files fan, aren't you?
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60660

Jan 20, 2005, 8:31 PM
The point is....once anyone found out the phone could not do what they thought it could, why not return it while they had a chance during the trial period?? That would have saved everyone all the drama. If VZW and/or Motorola said they would fix it later and that did not happen before the trial period was up, oh well, it was the consumers job to return it. Bottom line.
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muchdrama

Jan 20, 2005, 8:37 PM
60660 said:
The point is....once anyone found out the phone could not do what they thought it could, why not return it while they had a chance during the trial period?? That would have saved everyone all the drama. If VZW and/or Motorola said they would fix it later and that did not happen before the trial period was up, oh well, it was the consumers job to return it. Bottom line.
That IS a good point. Think anyone will listen? Nah, me neither.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 20, 2005, 10:36 PM
muchdrama said:
60660 said:
The point is....once anyone found out the phone could not do what they thought it could, why not return it while they had a chance during the trial period?? That would have saved everyone all the drama. If VZW and/or Motorola said they would fix it later and that did not happen before the trial period was up, oh well, it was the consumers job to return it. Bottom line.
That IS a good point. Think anyone will listen? Nah, me neither.


That is a very good point. The only flaw is that if enough people testify that they were told by verizon or motorola that there would be a "fix", then they could argue that verizon offered false promises to keep custom...
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muchdrama

Jan 20, 2005, 10:52 PM
PhoenixAshes said:
muchdrama said:
60660 said:
The point is....once anyone found out the phone could not do what they thought it could, why not return it while they had a chance during the trial period?? That would have saved everyone all the drama. If VZW and/or Motorola said they would fix it later and that did not happen before the trial period was up, oh well, it was the consumers job to return it. Bottom line.
That IS a good point. Think anyone will listen? Nah, me neither.


That is a very good point. The only flaw is that if enough people testify that they were told by verizon or motorola that there would be a "fix", then they could argue that verizo
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johnpaul191

Jan 23, 2005, 12:55 PM
at first the Verizon site did not have the section explaining what bluetooth profiles were supported, and it had a line about how you can use bluetooth "to connect to your handheld or desktop PC any time without wires". at no point did they explain you would connect to your desktop just to use the cell phone as a modem (why?).
the orig Moto page for the phone boasted all the phone's abilities including wireless file transfers etc etc etc. since then Moto has revised it to meet what they had to lock out.

my point is IF you did your research and read up on the Moto page, then the verizon page and got the phone when it was first released there was no official indication that the phone was crippled. the verizon sales staff are generally wor...
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shadedpain4

Jan 24, 2005, 11:24 AM
johnpaul191 said:

if you did not read sites like this, you would not have known for a long time about the phone being officially crippled. it eventually made it into the WSJ and other mainstream publications, but that was well past the 15 day trial period for early adopters.


"Trial" generally infers some sort of *trying* to make sure the phone works as you hope/wish/think it will. What does that have to do with reading websites?
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