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Verizon Wireless Sued Over V710 Bluetooth Limitations

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lexical

Jan 17, 2005, 3:29 PM
While we're suing VZW, lets sue some other people. Sue Disney because they didn't tell you Space Mountain would make you throw up. Sue Microsoft because they "make" you give them money for a new version of Windows. Sue McDonalds because you ate too much of their food and got fat and they didn't tell you that. Wendy's can get it too. Sue you're minister because you're still a sinner or not quite saved. Sue you car dealer because they didn't tell you gas would go up in price after you got that car. And, while youre at it, sue your parents because they didn't tell you life could be hard, isn't fair, and that **** HAPPENS. Call Johnny ****rain dammit Rolling Eyes
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TheVerizonMan

Jan 17, 2005, 3:32 PM
Exactly. While they're at it they should sue Hyundai for making a car thats not as fast as a Ferrari. I like the car dealer/gas comparison. That hits it right on the head.
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petemcroy

Jan 17, 2005, 3:39 PM
It's more like someone suing a car mfr. for selling a car with a radio, but locking them out of certain stations because it would anger Clear Channel.

Get it, moron?
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TheVerizonMan

Jan 17, 2005, 3:43 PM
Whats with the name calling? Anger Clear Channel? Oh yeah that makes sense..."Ummm we are angry because millions of people are listening to our radio stations. Now if a car mfr. sold cars with strictly XM or Sirius and no FM/AM radio then that would be understandable but again it comes back to that you guys have choices where to take your business. No one is forcing these sue happy customers to stay with VZW. They can simply pay the ETF and go to Cingular without questions asked.
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Big Daddy

Jan 17, 2005, 3:59 PM
The etf should be waived and the phone returned no questions asked
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TheVerizonMan

Jan 17, 2005, 4:06 PM
No it shouldnt because it states clearly in the contracts that if you want to leave VZW then pay the ETF. I do agree with you however, that the phone should be returned at no cost, therefore, the customer can get a new phone but to waive the ETF is a lil too far for people assuming.
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jukebox2

Jan 17, 2005, 5:05 PM
TheVerizonMan said:
No it shouldnt because it states clearly in the contracts that if you want to leave VZW then pay the ETF. I do agree with you however, that the phone should be returned at no cost, therefore, the customer can get a new phone but to waive the ETF is a lil too far for people assuming.

As does the V710 That it is Bluetooth. Is it? Not totaly as we were told it to be. Also we were told about upgrades to the software. We all assumed VZW would do what they said when we first received this phone, to date they delivered BS. I think this is what this matter is about.
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TheVerizonMan

Jan 17, 2005, 5:07 PM
Yes the v710 is bluetooth. Is a Microsoft Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse bluetooth because it cant transfer files? Verizon never set an offical date or release for the software upgrade. It told you guys "projected" and "planned" dates. Plans change. Thats business.
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jukebox2

Jan 17, 2005, 5:13 PM
TheVerizonMan said:
Yes the v710 is bluetooth. Is a Microsoft Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse bluetooth because it cant transfer files? Verizon never set an offical date or release for the software upgrade. It told you guys "projected" and "planned" dates. Plans change. Thats business.

That is not changing plans, that is missleading people to think if they kept this phone it will have the features we expected. Not to have VZW turnaround and say sorry pal your F**ked.
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lexical

Jan 17, 2005, 3:50 PM
Last time I checked, VZW and most other big companies have something called BUYERS REMORSE (echo, echo, echo)... If it didn't work, take it back. If you got a sandwch from a deli and they didn't tell you that they don't have mayonnaise, would you sue? Well you might, but not informed, adult consumers. They would take it back for what they want. It doesn't take 30 days for you to figure out that something doesn't have what you wanted. Things get left out of everything. Sue a cell company because they don't work well in your area. Sue your cable company because you can't get clear porn. Think about it
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Big Daddy

Jan 17, 2005, 3:58 PM
You people are sad, I pity you so
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lexical

Jan 17, 2005, 3:36 PM
Oh yeah... Watch out Wal-Mart and you big box stores... you're next Twisted Evil
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schnozejt

Jan 17, 2005, 3:42 PM
We've already got a pretty good list going.

I'm suing McDs for not telling me the coffee was hot. Oops, that one was already taken. Ummmmmm, what else????? I'm suing Phillip Morris for not telling me that inhaling SMOKE is bad for me, damn it that one is taken too. I give up, I got nothing.
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Big Daddy

Jan 17, 2005, 4:02 PM
go slide down a 30 foot long razorblade soaked in lemon juice
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schnozejt

Jan 17, 2005, 4:04 PM
Wow, that's a good thing to sue over big daddy. I really do enjoy the relevance of your post to the topic, good job.
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Big Daddy

Jan 17, 2005, 4:06 PM
I guarantee my razor blade will be sharp
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TheVerizonMan

Jan 17, 2005, 4:09 PM
Ouch man, all arguments aside thats probably one of the most painful things I have ever heard of.
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schnozejt

Jan 17, 2005, 4:10 PM
I feel sorry for you Big Daddy, you sound like you have lots of annger for absolutely no reason. I definatley reccomend checking into a doctor if you're planning on physically hurting someone over a discussion.
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Big Daddy

Jan 17, 2005, 4:11 PM
Its just a dream I have
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Chase me

Jan 22, 2005, 2:46 PM
Wow Big Daddy you are a twisted person if that is really a dream you have i think you should seek some help. People log on to these sights to be informed on the pro's and con's of a phone or carrier and to help them make a decision then they see that type of remark. You sound like a child. Rolling Eyes
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Big Daddy

Jan 22, 2005, 2:47 PM
Well who the hell cares what you think...Here is an informed decision...VERIZON SUX Wink
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Chase me

Jan 22, 2005, 3:12 PM
Wow thats about the brightest thing youve said so far. I bet your a cat person. Surprised
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Big Daddy

Jan 22, 2005, 3:13 PM
I like to kill cats
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Chase me

Jan 22, 2005, 3:17 PM
Damm dude your sick what the hell are you even doing on this site. You have no interesting comments you sound like a twisted teenager who is just looking for attention, is that it do you need some attention well if you keep talking about killing things online im sure you'll get all the attention you need.Its against the law dummass. Grow Up Laughing
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Big Daddy

Jan 22, 2005, 3:21 PM
I make my own laws dairy queen
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Chase me

Jan 22, 2005, 3:25 PM
Dairy Queen wow you really are a teenager,my 6 year old could come up with something better than that one. Now go tell mommy that someone made you cry. Little Baby Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Big Daddy

Jan 22, 2005, 3:26 PM
Sprint sux
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Chase me

Jan 22, 2005, 3:30 PM
Damm another witty comeback your a freaking brainstorm over there arent you. What are you in the 3rd grade now. I bet your parents are so proud of their little mental case.
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Big Daddy

Jan 22, 2005, 3:33 PM
Speaking with your feeble mind has become tiresome...Goodbye.
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Chase me

Jan 22, 2005, 3:33 PM
Big Daddy hu sounds like your trying to OVERCOMPINSATE for something maybe a little pecker is that why your such an ediot. Laughing
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Big Daddy

Jan 22, 2005, 3:34 PM
Your grammar is astounding
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Chase me

Jan 22, 2005, 5:03 PM
Ya i dont hit spell check everytime i send a message. Hey what can you do though.
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Icyhot

Jan 24, 2005, 3:12 AM
You criticized Pete for his misspelling of crook (he said cook) but man oh man, double check your spelling on this post..dont you feel like a f***ing idiot now!!
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jramossteel

Jan 17, 2005, 4:01 PM
lexical said:
While we're suing VZW, lets sue some other people. Sue Disney because they didn't tell you Space Mountain would make you throw up. Sue Microsoft because they "make" you give them money for a new version of Windows. Sue McDonalds because you ate too much of their food and got fat and they didn't tell you that. Wendy's can get it too. Sue you're minister because you're still a sinner or not quite saved. Sue you car dealer because they didn't tell you gas would go up in price after you got that car. And, while youre at it, sue your parents because they didn't tell you life could be hard, isn't fair, and that **** HAPPENS. Call Johnny ****rain dammit Rolling Eyes

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Big Daddy

Jan 17, 2005, 4:02 PM
I know aint Verizon folks just plain stupid Laughing
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lexical

Jan 17, 2005, 4:10 PM
Hmm... actually I work for and use Cingular, the company whose butt you lips seem to be glued to. My post is ridiculous because this lawsuit is ridiculous...Yes I'd be mad if I bought the V710 (well one of the first 100) and needed the OBEX support. And yes, those initial customers who are complaining about it (those who bought before the news about the BT came out) are entitled to something (free phone perhaps). But suing when you paid for something and then wanting more than a refund or equal restitution (*sniff* do I smell profit) is unreasonable. Did it endanger your life? Nope. Did it ruin your home life? I hope not. Did it inconvenience you? Probably and thats about it. You don't sue for a minor inconvenience unless it cost you a l...
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TheVerizonMan

Jan 17, 2005, 4:12 PM
The funny thing is that when people upgraded their phones with the bootleg flash and was able to tranfer files via bluetooth with MPT they still complained. ITS A PHONE PEOPLE!!!
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schnozejt

Jan 17, 2005, 4:07 PM
Please show proof where VZW advertised of being able to use all BT profiles.
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jramossteel

Jan 17, 2005, 4:09 PM
Please show proof that it doesn't. Surprised
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Big Daddy

Jan 17, 2005, 4:12 PM
Bingo well put
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schnozejt

Jan 17, 2005, 4:12 PM
Read the article, VZW only advertised that it will connect to your PC or PDA; the BT name is advertising as well, indirectly.
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timslo

Jan 19, 2005, 5:11 PM
No, they indirectly used the BT name which is why BT is just as pissed off as Verizon's customers.
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TheVerizonMan

Jan 19, 2005, 7:15 PM
What are you guys talking about? They didnt use the name indirectly. The phone simply has bluetooth. Thats using it directly. Bluetooth is not just being able to transfer files. Bluetooth is simply a wireless connection between 2 devices. Thats it. The phone has bluetooth. No matter how much you guys dont want to admit it. Again ill go back to the comparison of the MS bluetooth keyboard. Just because it cant transfer files to the computer doesnt mean that it isnt bluetooth.
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Chase me

Jan 22, 2005, 5:09 PM
Well put. Cool
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Stevo2k4

Jan 17, 2005, 4:16 PM
jramossteel said:
Please show proof that it doesn't. Surprised


The point is that VzW won't have to show prrof that it doesn't to win this frivolous case. They advertised that it can connect to your PC or PDA, which it can using it as a wireless modem. They advertised that it has bluetooth capabilities, which it does... it has three profiles, just not the one you want, so don't buy it... VzW will win this case hands down, no problem, but we probably won't hear much about it in the future...

~Steve
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Icyhot

Jan 24, 2005, 3:09 AM
When they say bluetooth, you would expect total bluetooth, yes? If not, they should have advertised "almost total bluetooth". But if they had done that, people would have asked which part of the bluetooth doesnt work" and when VZW told them, sales of the V710 would have sucked so bad, VZW would have had to make it full bluetooth..see my point??
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