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Cingular HSDPA Test Successful

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big deal

rambofone

Jan 4, 2005, 7:08 PM
Shouldn't Cingular really be concentrating on improving their poor coverage?
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CREX

Jan 4, 2005, 7:10 PM
cingular has great coverage Very Happy
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rambofone

Jan 4, 2005, 7:23 PM
CREX said:
cingular has great coverage Very Happy

I'm glad Cingular is working for you.
As a cingular customer you are limited to your providers coverage area. Unlike verizon or sprint which can roam off one anothers networks for a much larger network then cingular. Smile
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MegaBit

Jan 4, 2005, 7:28 PM
It's not how large it is... it's how fast you can use it!
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Will_AlertVZW

Jan 6, 2005, 6:12 PM
Which in this case Cingular would be on the bottem because there circuits are always ful
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tropicalhaven

Aug 31, 2005, 8:13 PM
Well, I can make phone calls on my Cingular phone. I talk to other Cingular customers all the time. The circuits are not always full.
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coldsteel

Jan 4, 2005, 8:03 PM
Actually, we have roaming agreements with most every GSM network in the USA, giving us a larger coverage area than any CDMA carrier.
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CREX

Jan 4, 2005, 8:09 PM
that is very tru steel
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gunny

Jan 4, 2005, 8:18 PM
what other GSM networks are you talking about braw. i hope it aint tmobile your talking about bro.. peace

Sprint rules and so does the sanyo mm7400
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coldsteel

Jan 4, 2005, 8:35 PM
T-Mobile, and any other GSM carrier out there.
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gunny

Jan 4, 2005, 9:22 PM
whatever!!! it still not as good as verizon
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pcrisp07

Jan 4, 2005, 11:51 PM
technically Cingular is the fastest growing network in the USA and they also have the largest DIGITAL coverage area and now the fastest data speeds!! Verizon is a great company but I'm sticking with Cingular.
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 9:12 AM
pcrisp07 said:
technically Cingular is the fastest growing network in the USA and they also have the largest DIGITAL coverage area and now the fastest data speeds!! Verizon is a great company but I'm sticking with Cingular.



Well, I'd like to clarify a few things.
First, I would more specifically say, that coverage for Cingular is expanding. It's not really "growing" since they aren't building aby new towers. Rather, they are going to spend 2005 consolidating and spreading out the over 40,000 cell sites the now control with the acquisition of AT&T (as opposed to VZWs just over 26,000). Further, Cingular currently covers 100 out of the top 100 major U.S markets as opposed to VZWs 97 out of 100. Also,...
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 9:33 AM
Stevo2k4 said:
pcrisp07 said:
technically Cingular is the fastest growing network in the USA and they also have the largest DIGITAL coverage area and now the fastest data speeds!! Verizon is a great company but I'm sticking with Cingular.



Well, I'd like to clarify a few things.
First, I would more specifically say, that coverage for Cingular is expanding. It's not really "growing" since they aren't building aby new towers. Rather, they are going to spend 2005 consolidating and spreading out the over 40,000 cell sites the now control with the acquisition of AT&T (as opposed to VZWs just over 26,000). Further, Cingular currently covers 100 out of the top 100 major U.S markets as op
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schnozejt

Jan 5, 2005, 11:20 AM
You need to calm down phoenix it's just a forum not judgement day. You sound like you have some anger issues just like someone that was on this forum, his name was Cain and that guy had issues. Take a deep breathe and try not get pissy everytime someone posts something against Cingular, Cingular is not perfect and you need realize that, hopefully you will one day. Now go smoke some herb or drink some tea or go see a doctor, your anger is going to hurt someone and I'm afraid for you.
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 11:58 AM
schnozejt said:
You need to calm down phoenix it's just a forum not judgement day. You sound like you have some anger issues just like someone that was on this forum, his name was Cain and that guy had issues. Take a deep breathe and try not get pissy everytime someone posts something against Cingular, Cingular is not perfect and you need realize that, hopefully you will one day. Now go smoke some herb or drink some tea or go see a doctor, your anger is going to hurt someone and I'm afraid for you.



lol...



It's alright, I don't mind being flamed...

~Steve
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 1:06 PM
schnozejt said:
You need to calm down phoenix it's just a forum not judgement day. You sound like you have some anger issues just like someone that was on this forum, his name was Cain and that guy had issues. Take a deep breathe and try not get pissy everytime someone posts something against Cingular, Cingular is not perfect and you need realize that, hopefully you will one day. Now go smoke some herb or drink some tea or go see a doctor, your anger is going to hurt someone and I'm afraid for you.


Wow, there are quite a few people here who could misconstrue a 2 letter word. You need to reread my post. There is no anger or malice in my statements at all. As a matter of fact, you are the only one who thinks...
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muchdrama

Jan 5, 2005, 11:30 AM

Odd that you mention high speed network. If Verizon has only 30 percent of its network covered in ev-do, then they still have a smaller highspeed network than Cingular. We use EDGE and it's available on almost the entire network. It's not as fast as ev-do, but the service is available nationally.
Now to the HSDPA network in atlanta. It's not just 2 towers and a data card. It's the entire city. These tests were performed in virtually every part of the city and the results were the same. These tests are a true indication of the speed of the technology and you can bank on it. Lucent wouldn't publish those numbers unless it could prove it. Lucent also claims this is just the beginning and it will get faster as the devices are ma
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zjc2a

Jan 5, 2005, 11:34 AM
muchdrama said:.
You can't even compare EVDO to EDGE...EDGE is just plain slow in comparison. As for HSPDA...let it get going in a few major markets where we can test its true potential. As for Lucent not publishing numbers if they couldn't prove them...companies do that every day. Don't be naive.

Be afraid.
No EDGE is a little slower but it is everywhere just about, unlike EVDO and how many phones have EVDO that are out and you can buy in a store, 1? By the time EVDO is everywhere and there are phones to support it HSPDA will be almost ready. I really am excited about this, how much more I can do in life with speeds like that everywhere with my laptop, and I could get rid of comcast, you kn...
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schnozejt

Jan 5, 2005, 11:52 AM
Why don't you do a little google search for EVDO--everything that comes up related to EDGE says it is capable of speeds UP TO 387kb/s. Pay close attention to the words UP TO, that doesn't mean that it is a speed someone will get, it's a possibility and theoretical peak. This is the same as VZWs national access.

EVDO has an UP TO speed of 2mb/s, but like I said UP TO speed is BS and what one needs to pay attention to is average speeds. You cannot comapre the average speed of EVDO to EDGE, it's like me playing one on one with Shaq. EDGE and 1xRTT are two compare.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 3:18 PM
schnozejt said:
Why don't you do a little google search for EVDO--everything that comes up related to EDGE says it is capable of speeds UP TO 387kb/s. Pay close attention to the words UP TO, that doesn't mean that it is a speed someone will get, it's a possibility and theoretical peak. This is the same as VZWs national access.

EVDO has an UP TO speed of 2mb/s, but like I said UP TO speed is BS and what one needs to pay attention to is average speeds. You cannot comapre the average speed of EVDO to EDGE, it's like me playing one on one with Shaq. EDGE and 1xRTT are two compare.


The difference between Cingular's 100k edge average and Verizon's 300k ev-do average is laughable at best. Sure, it is 3 times f...
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 4:27 PM
PhoenixAshes said:
schnozejt said:
Why don't you do a little google search for EVDO--everything that comes up related to EDGE says it is capable of speeds UP TO 387kb/s. Pay close attention to the words UP TO, that doesn't mean that it is a speed someone will get, it's a possibility and theoretical peak. This is the same as VZWs national access.

EVDO has an UP TO speed of 2mb/s, but like I said UP TO speed is BS and what one needs to pay attention to is average speeds. You cannot comapre the average speed of EVDO to EDGE, it's like me playing one on one with Shaq. EDGE and 1xRTT are two compare.


The difference between Cingular's 100k edge average and Verizon's 300k ev-do average is l
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muchdrama

Jan 5, 2005, 6:27 PM
Stevo2k4 said:
PhoenixAshes said:
schnozejt said:
Why don't you do a little google search for EVDO--everything that comes up related to EDGE says it is capable of speeds UP TO 387kb/s. Pay close attention to the words UP TO, that doesn't mean that it is a speed someone will get, it's a possibility and theoretical peak. This is the same as VZWs national access.

EVDO has an UP TO speed of 2mb/s, but like I said UP TO speed is BS and what one needs to pay attention to is average speeds. You cannot comapre the average speed of EVDO to EDGE, it's like me playing one on one with Shaq. EDGE and 1xRTT are two compare.


The difference between Cingular's 100k edge average an
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 6:46 PM
muchdrama said:
And I had a chance to use an EVDO card in Washington, D.C. in November, and one in San Diego in late December...I averaged 750 kbps *sustained* speed. Believe me...there's a difference, Cain.


Do you guys all smoke from the same bag? I think it's cute that you guys think I am somebody else, but believe me, no one quotes shakespeare in regards to me.
I've never used a evdo card but I have read plenty of articles that say the average speed is 300-400, so I am happy it works better than that for you. You must be a real hotshot to be flying around the country using evdo data cards in select evdo cities. I bet you think people care, too.
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muchdrama

Jan 6, 2005, 8:12 AM
PhoenixAshes said:
muchdrama said:
And I had a chance to use an EVDO card in Washington, D.C. in November, and one in San Diego in late December...I averaged 750 kbps *sustained* speed. Believe me...there's a difference, Cain.


Do you guys all smoke from the same bag? I think it's cute that you guys think I am somebody else, but believe me, no one quotes shakespeare in regards to me.
I've never used a evdo card but I have read plenty of articles that say the average speed is 300-400, so I am happy it works better than that for you. You must be a real hotshot to be flying around the country using evdo data cards in select evdo cities. I bet you think people care, too.
Visiti...
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 6, 2005, 12:29 PM
was never whining.... keep smoking, dude. Wink
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akaszuba

Jan 5, 2005, 12:11 PM
"and I could get rid of comcast, you know my internet at home is almost $50 ridiculous! Evil or Very Mad "


Yeah! Screw Comcast! Twisted Evil
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Dan717

Jan 5, 2005, 2:41 PM
While I am big supporter of UMTS and HSPDA, its going to take a bit longer than you think to roll out these new technologies than you think. Put this in perspective... it took ATT nearly 5 years to match the service of GSM to that of TDMA. These new broadband services are not going to be coming out overnite, especially if you do not live in one of the top 50 markets.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 2:58 PM
5 years? ATT launched gsm in 2003. So did cingular. it took cingular less than a year to convert their entire network to gsm. from what i have read, umts will be launched first and be completed by year end. the highspeed update will be completed by 2006.
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coldsteel

Jan 5, 2005, 3:00 PM
And Dan's supposed to be a Cing or AWS supervisor... Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 3:08 PM
coldsteel said:
And Dan's supposed to be a Cing or AWS supervisor... Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes


I've only been working for cingular for about 5 months now. my first week of training covered most of the gsm rollout info. this guy isn't a supervisor of anything.
Laughing Laughing Laughing
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CREX

Jan 5, 2005, 3:18 PM
WHAT DEPT U IN ASHES
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 3:20 PM
I am a sales rep at a company owned kiosk.
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muchdrama

Jan 5, 2005, 6:28 PM
Dan717 said:
While I am big supporter of UMTS and HSPDA, its going to take a bit longer than you think to roll out these new technologies than you think. Put this in perspective... it took ATT nearly 5 years to match the service of GSM to that of TDMA. These new broadband services are not going to be coming out overnite, especially if you do not live in one of the top 50 markets.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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muchdrama

Jan 5, 2005, 6:37 PM
muchdrama said:
Dan717 said:
While I am big supporter of UMTS and HSPDA, its going to take a bit longer than you think to roll out these new technologies than you think. Put this in perspective... it took ATT nearly 5 years to match the service of GSM to that of TDMA. These new broadband services are not going to be coming out overnite, especially if you do not live in one of the top 50 markets.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
IF...and only if your statement had read "it took ATTWS nearly 3 years to match the service of GSM to that of TDMA". When I was still managing the Technology Dept. with CC in August of 2002, ATTWS was just starting to roll out GSM in a limited fas...
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jramossteel

Jan 9, 2005, 4:19 PM
Dan717 said:
While I am big supporter of UMTS and HSPDA, its going to take a bit longer than you think to roll out these new technologies than you think. Put this in perspective... it took ATT nearly 5 years to match the service of GSM to that of TDMA. These new broadband services are not going to be coming out overnite, especially if you do not live in one of the top 50 markets.



And on the flip side it took Cingular within 36 months two get off of TDMA and be fulyy up and running with GSM and EDGE. Very Happy
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 12:01 PM
muchdrama said:

Odd that you mention high speed network. If Verizon has only 30 percent of its network covered in ev-do, then they still have a smaller highspeed network than Cingular. We use EDGE and it's available on almost the entire network. It's not as fast as ev-do, but the service is available nationally.
Now to the HSDPA network in atlanta. It's not just 2 towers and a data card. It's the entire city. These tests were performed in virtually every part of the city and the results were the same. These tests are a true indication of the speed of the technology and you can bank on it. Lucent wouldn't publish those numbers unless it could prove it. Lucent also claims this is just the beginning and it w
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schnozejt

Jan 5, 2005, 11:33 AM
The article, Cain, doesn't mention in what parts of Atlanta it was tested, it just says Atlanta. Do you have insider information; info that no one knows about, just you?

I don't think it's a good idea to compare apples to oranges; you are comparing edge to evdo and of course you are saying edge is better then evdo because its nationwide, in actuality you should be comparing edge to national access.

Coverage in north idaho is better w/ VZW then Cingular therefore VZW is better then Cingular for nationwide coverage. This is a basic example on how you present an arguement, stop being so falic.

There are lot of downsides to both companies, something you will never admit Cain and I hope one day you open up your eyes and realize that yo...
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 1:49 PM
schnozejt said:
The article, Cain, doesn't mention in what parts of Atlanta it was tested, it just says Atlanta. Do you have insider information; info that no one knows about, just you?

I don't think it's a good idea to compare apples to oranges; you are comparing edge to evdo and of course you are saying edge is better then evdo because its nationwide, in actuality you should be comparing edge to national access.

Coverage in north idaho is better w/ VZW then Cingular therefore VZW is better then Cingular for nationwide coverage. This is a basic example on how you present an arguement, stop being so falic.

There are lot of downsides to both companies, something you will never admit Cain and I hope one day you o
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muchdrama

Jan 5, 2005, 6:32 PM
my store has several edge phones and verizon just released it's first?
So let's get this straight, Cain. EDGE is better because Cingular has more handsets that support it than Verizon has that support EVDO? Wheeee! This is fun!
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 6:55 PM
muchdrama said:
my store has several edge phones and verizon just released it's first?
So let's get this straight, Cain. EDGE is better because Cingular has more handsets that support it than Verizon has that support EVDO? Wheeee! This is fun!


Um, no, FRED. Edge is better because I can pick up a cell phone and use it in any city that cingular has coverage in. So yeah that is why edge is currently better than evdo. it's the same reason that evdo is better than umts- more people can use it. Tom, why do you keep calling me cain? This is getting really silly, Dave.
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muchdrama

Jan 6, 2005, 8:15 AM
PhoenixAshes said:
muchdrama said:
my store has several edge phones and verizon just released it's first?
So let's get this straight, Cain. EDGE is better because Cingular has more handsets that support it than Verizon has that support EVDO? Wheeee! This is fun!


Um, no, FRED. Edge is better because I can pick up a cell phone and use it in any city that cingular has coverage in. So yeah that is why edge is currently better than evdo. it's the same reason that evdo is better than umts- more people can use it. Tom, why do you keep calling me cain? This is getting really silly, Dave.
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Stevo2k4

Jan 6, 2005, 8:50 AM
muchdrama said:
PhoenixAshes said:
muchdrama said:
my store has several edge phones and verizon just released it's first?
So let's get this straight, Cain. EDGE is better because Cingular has more handsets that support it than Verizon has that support EVDO? Wheeee! This is fun!


Um, no, FRED. Edge is better because I can pick up a cell phone and use it in any city that cingular has coverage in. So yeah that is why edge is currently better than evdo. it's the same reason that evdo is better than umts- more people can use it. Tom, why do you keep calling me cain? This is getting really silly, Dave.
Well, you and I both know why I'm
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muchdrama

Jan 6, 2005, 10:42 AM
Stevo2k4 said:
muchdrama said:
PhoenixAshes said:
muchdrama said:
my store has several edge phones and verizon just released it's first?
So let's get this straight, Cain. EDGE is better because Cingular has more handsets that support it than Verizon has that support EVDO? Wheeee! This is fun!


Um, no, FRED. Edge is better because I can pick up a cell phone and use it in any city that cingular has coverage in. So yeah that is why edge is currently better than evdo. it's the same reason that evdo is better than umts- more people can use it. Tom, why do you keep calling me cain? This is getting really silly, Dave.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 6, 2005, 12:31 PM
If you were actually able to see my ip address, which you can't unless you are a moderator i'm sure, you would know that i am not cain, but hey...good bluff.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 6, 2005, 12:34 PM
you are claiming you know my ip address, and you want to say i am ludicrous? that's hilarious, Larry.
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Xanderk

Jan 5, 2005, 2:22 PM
PhoenixAshes said:
Stevo2k4 said:
pcrisp07 said:
technically Cingular is the fastest growing network in the USA and they also have the largest DIGITAL coverage area and now the fastest data speeds!! Verizon is a great company but I'm sticking with Cingular.



Well, I'd like to clarify a few things.
First, I would more specifically say, that coverage for Cingular is expanding. It's not really "growing" since they aren't building aby new towers. Rather, they are going to spend 2005 consolidating and spreading out the over 40,000 cell sites the now control with the acquisition of AT&T (as opposed to VZWs just over 26,000). Further, Cingular currently covers 100 out
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 2:47 PM
Yikes!
I meant over 2 HUNDRED! darn extra zeroes! I did just read an article that said kentucky was getting 140 new cell sites in 2005, and nokia is going to expand cingular's current coverage.
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Will_AlertVZW

Jan 6, 2005, 6:27 PM
Thats wierd because looking at Cingulars Coverage map KY seems to be one of cingulars best covered states why would they need 140 new towers there?
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 6, 2005, 6:56 PM
Will_AlertVZW said:
Thats wierd because looking at Cingulars Coverage map KY seems to be one of cingulars best covered states why would they need 140 new towers there?


one reason that comes to mind is a growing number of subscribers.
why would verizon spend all that money on their network improvements if they are the best? the magic word is "improvements".
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zjc2a

Jan 6, 2005, 11:09 PM
Will_AlertVZW said:
Thats wierd because looking at Cingulars Coverage map KY seems to be one of cingulars best covered states why would they need 140 new towers there?


Everyone in Ky has Cingular, Verizon I don't care about coverage maps, service is terrible. Sprint, stay on the interstate and the only metro area, Louisville. But then again there is not many people there. hmm. But is does not make sense, they need some more towers in TN.
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pcrisp07

Jan 5, 2005, 8:00 PM
Yeah They might expand to 2000 towers but definately not it the first quarter. putting up 2000 towers would be completely unneccesary since there are already enough towers nationwide that Cingular could use.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 8:17 PM
that was a mistype... i had meant to type 200.
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tropicalhaven

Aug 31, 2005, 8:34 PM
Stevo2k4 said:

VzW already has broadband access covering 30% of it's network - Cingular has yet to have a true high speed data network (in my opinion of high speed).

~Steve


This is a list of Broadband locations offered by Verizon Wireless:

Cities:

* Athens, GA
* Atlanta, GA
* Austin, TX
* Baltimore, MD
* Baton Rouge, LA
* Boston, MA
* Charlotte, NC
* Chicago, IL
* Cincinnati, OH
* Cleveland, OH
* Columbus, OH
* Dallas/Fort Worth, TX
* Dayton, OH
* Denver, CO
* Detroit, MI
* Hartford, CT
* Houston, TX
* Indianapolis, IN
* Jacksonville, FL
* Kansas City, MO
* Knoxville, TN
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phonescoopjunkie

Jan 5, 2005, 11:02 AM
I am so glad that someone has made the point that CINGULAR has 40,000 cell sites! More than any other carrier! Period! Not to say that means they have coverage in every nook and cranny, but that they do have more cell sites is a fact.
I think Verizon wins the prize for the best media campaign ever. They truly have deceived everyone into believing they have more sites than anyone else. I work in the Cingular cancellations dept and I hear that as the reason people are leaving. The funny thing is that most people that I talk to who are cancelling with AT&T wireless/Cingular have the nokia 5160 or 5165 and are fed up with poor signal. It's not the Cingular coverage, it's the crappy old phones!
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akaszuba

Jan 5, 2005, 11:08 AM
"The funny thing is that most people that I talk to who are cancelling with AT&T wireless/Cingular have the nokia 5160 or 5165 and are fed up with poor signal. It's not the Cingular coverage, it's the crappy old phones!

Yean no kidding, if you have old equipment, how can possibly expect it to work properly. Sure, in some or even most cases it may still work, but in other cases and possibly as well it may not.

This has nothing to do with cell talk, but it is the equivalant. A good friend of mine constantly complains about how much his Honda sucks, how its so unreliable, blah blah blah. I constantly have to remind him. "ITS A 1987 FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?!?!".. Razz
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 12:22 PM
phonescoopjunkie said:
I am so glad that someone has made the point that CINGULAR has 40,000 cell sites! More than any other carrier! Period! Not to say that means they have coverage in every nook and cranny, but that they do have more cell sites is a fact.
I think Verizon wins the prize for the best media campaign ever. They truly have deceived everyone into believing they have more sites than anyone else. I work in the Cingular cancellations dept and I hear that as the reason people are leaving. The funny thing is that most people that I talk to who are cancelling with AT&T wireless/Cingular have the nokia 5160 or 5165 and are fed up with poor signal. It's not the Cingular coverage, it's the crappy old phones!
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Big Daddy

Jan 5, 2005, 1:26 PM
True but Cingular does run the network properly
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tropicalhaven

Aug 31, 2005, 8:26 PM
Cingular has roaming agreements with Alltel, Dobson (and all the GSM CellularONE companies, AFAIK), T-Mobile, Einstein PCS, i wireless, Centennial Wireless, SunCom, Telemetrix, Wilkes Cellular, Farmers Cellular, Endless Mountains Wireless, Edge Wireless, Corr Wireless, Commnet Wireless, and Cincinatti Bell, and Rural Cellular Corporation (RCC/Unicel). These are just a few of the companies in the United States that Cingular allows its customers to roam on. In fact, Alltel offers GSM roaming to Cingular customers while *not* offering GSM service to its own customers (mostly inherited from Western Wireless).

Cingular also roams on Rogers Wireless, the largest wireless brand in Canada by coverage and number of customers.

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Will_AlertVZW

Jan 6, 2005, 6:13 PM
Are you joking?
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jramossteel

Jan 9, 2005, 12:10 PM
rambofone said:
CREX said:
cingular has great coverage Very Happy

I'm glad Cingular is working for you.
As a cingular customer you are limited to your providers coverage area. Unlike verizon or sprint which can roam off one anothers networks for a much larger network then cingular. Smile



Limited to a network that is larger than either Verizon or Sprint... Honestly who really does all that much travelling in the areas that aren;t covered anyway. Not to mention just because they are on a map of a company, there is no service guarenteed
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tropicalhaven

Aug 31, 2005, 8:39 PM
That's true...my parents live in a dead zone about 15 miles long and 20 miles wide, yet on the Verizon Wireless they show it as being covered by digital signal...and digital signal barely works in the area! On their street level maps available in the store, it shows that it's actually a dead zone. It's large enough to put a white dot on the national map.
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zjc2a

Jan 5, 2005, 2:41 AM
This is big news, that is what kind of speed I get at home on my cable modem!!! You can't argue this is the best thing in wireless in years, since text messaging. Big deal we will see.....This is the first glimpse of the furture of wireless, finally.

-Z
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 9:14 AM
zjc2a said:
This is big news, that is what kind of speed I get at home on my cable modem!!! You can't argue this is the best thing in wireless in years, since text messaging. Big deal we will see.....This is the first glimpse of the furture of wireless, finally.

-Z


The speeds discussed in the article far exceed the speeds you get at home on your 'cable modem' - I guarantee it.

Running a T3 line in your house?!? Wink

~Steve
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 9:34 AM
Stevo2k4 said:
zjc2a said:
This is big news, that is what kind of speed I get at home on my cable modem!!! You can't argue this is the best thing in wireless in years, since text messaging. Big deal we will see.....This is the first glimpse of the furture of wireless, finally.

-Z


The speeds discussed in the article far exceed the speeds you get at home on your 'cable modem' - I guarantee it.

Running a T3 line in your house?!? Wink

~Steve


What's the guarantee you are offering? I get 4megs at my house using my cable modem.

You are batting 0-2 so far...
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 11:56 AM
PhoenixAshes said:
Stevo2k4 said:
zjc2a said:
This is big news, that is what kind of speed I get at home on my cable modem!!! You can't argue this is the best thing in wireless in years, since text messaging. Big deal we will see.....This is the first glimpse of the furture of wireless, finally.

-Z


The speeds discussed in the article far exceed the speeds you get at home on your 'cable modem' - I guarantee it.

Running a T3 line in your house?!? Wink

~Steve


What's the guarantee you are offering? I get 4megs at my house using my cable modem.

You are batting 0-2 so far...


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Dan717

Jan 5, 2005, 2:28 PM
The speeds that I get and others listed here are actually an anomally from what I understand based upon what I understand the national average. The northeast has exceptionally high broadband speeds because of Adelphia and Comcast having their major hubs in Penna. I understand that the national average is about 500k overall.
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 2:39 PM
Dan717 said:
The speeds that I get and others listed here are actually an anomally from what I understand based upon what I understand the national average. The northeast has exceptionally high broadband speeds because of Adelphia and Comcast having their major hubs in Penna. I understand that the national average is about 500k overall.


precisely my point.

~Steve
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 2:54 PM
sorry, not "stealing bandwidth" from anyone. maybe you just have a terrible isp.

You need to visit www.cox.com . they advertise up to 5megs. you have to pay 10 buck more a month for the extra meg. i pay for 4 and i usually cruise around the 3.5 mark. you can also visit www.broadbandreports.com . They have speed tests and show average benchmark speeds for individuals. cox customers are cruising pretty fast. when I had dsl, i had faster speeds than the 500k you are talking about. i usually cruised over a meg.
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Dan717

Jan 6, 2005, 7:04 AM
What type of DSL were you using because the most common type of DSL is A-DSL, the type pushed by Verizon, while it may advertise 1.5 Mbps down, that is only if you run straight copper from switch to house, have no other users on the switch at that time, and the latency times for said switch is set to 300ms or less.

Now... out on the west coast they run something called S-DSL which I hear can hit speeds of 2-3Mbps or higher. But with SDSL the switch gear that supports this is primarily only made by Nortel and its about 5x the price of A-DSL switches. The area of operation of S-DSL is smaller as well.
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 6, 2005, 12:28 PM
i used directv's dsl when I had directv. I use cox cable now that i moved.
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pcrisp07

Jan 5, 2005, 9:41 AM
Actually I have COX communications and they run fiber lines to every neighborhood in my area! they advertise speeds of 4 megabits per second But I get arround 3.1 mb/s as the CNET bandwith meter says. Go to www.cox.com and you can see for yourself!!
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Dan717

Jan 5, 2005, 10:07 AM
This is actually a very big deal. 3 mbs to each user... wow... this has the ability to change the way we communicate...

Think about it, this will change the way we connect to the net, the way we talk to people (streaming video phones on full duplex is a distinct possibility), streaming video and music... all through a little handheld. Think of the Tapwave Zodiac 2 and what it would be possible of doing with an always on 3mbps data connection with simul voice... Its going to create an ultra competive environment between ISP's, Cable companies, and Cell phones and competition is a very good thing.

As for the T1 reference... in my neighborhood Comcast laid a Fibre backbone where I can hit consistent 4.5mbps using Cnet's bandwidth test...
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 12:09 PM
Dan717 said:
This is actually a very big deal. 3 mbs to each user... wow... this has the ability to change the way we communicate...

Think about it, this will change the way we connect to the net, the way we talk to people (streaming video phones on full duplex is a distinct possibility), streaming video and music... all through a little handheld. Think of the Tapwave Zodiac 2 and what it would be possible of doing with an always on 3mbps data connection with simul voice... Its going to create an ultra competive environment between ISP's, Cable companies, and Cell phones and competition is a very good thing.

As for the T1 reference... in my neighborhood Comcast laid a Fibre backbone where I can hit consistent 4.
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zjc2a

Jan 5, 2005, 12:14 PM
I just checked my speed at work, I am only running about 2.5 mps now at home I usually get around 3-3.2. But 50$ for comcast internet, come on.
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pcrisp07

Jan 5, 2005, 8:11 PM
I live in a smaller community and its easier to run highspeed connections to every home. Cox is setting up their network to deliver video, phone and internet service to every home on just one fiber line. They have put their network in place to run fiber to the curb at every residence. I live in Branson Missouri where there are about 12,000 people total in the areas where Cox provides cable service. I beleive that our local cox office uses a fiber optic line that supports an OC-192 into the area and then disperses that connection to all of the regions within our region.
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Stevo2k4

Jan 6, 2005, 8:54 AM
pcrisp07 said:
I live in a smaller community and its easier to run highspeed connections to every home. Cox is setting up their network to deliver video, phone and internet service to every home on just one fiber line. They have put their network in place to run fiber to the curb at every residence. I live in Branson Missouri where there are about 12,000 people total in the areas where Cox provides cable service. I beleive that our local cox office uses a fiber optic line that supports an OC-192 into the area and then disperses that connection to all of the regions within our region.


Sorry, thins in Bronson, Missouri.

"Hey ma, can I have a cookie?"
"No Dice."
"Dis ain't over"




~Steve

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phonescoopjunkie

Jan 6, 2005, 10:20 AM
Simpsons!!! Laughing
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Stevo2k4

Jan 6, 2005, 1:12 PM
phonescoopjunkie said:
Simpsons!!! Laughing


Two points for you!

~Steve
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pcrisp07

Jan 6, 2005, 1:26 PM
Yeah! LOL i Hate how many old people we get durring tourist season. they all drive really slow. LOL
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Dan717

Jan 6, 2005, 1:22 PM
Steve, are you in Buffalo? Because if you are honestly Buffalo has not very good broadband access. Adelphia isn't doing anything and the dsl is ok, but you are going to pay for it. My friend John is up there and he complains constantly about it.
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Stevo2k4

Jan 7, 2005, 7:34 AM
Dan717 said:
Steve, are you in Buffalo? Because if you are honestly Buffalo has not very good broadband access. Adelphia isn't doing anything and the dsl is ok, but you are going to pay for it. My friend John is up there and he complains constantly about it.


Yeah... I sure am in Buffalo. well, near there anyways... and yes, the connections peeds do suck. and yes, the cable is wicked expensive, but monopolized so I'm left with not much choice.
Sucks.

~Steve
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CyberMoto

Jan 5, 2005, 7:58 PM
Nice speeds BUT!!!!!. NTTDOCOMO outdoor field test in 03 100Mbps download 20Mbps upload. Aug 04 1Gbps download. Lab test. Field tests later this year. Nice that's speed. Cool
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pcrisp07

Jan 5, 2005, 8:15 PM
And guess who Cingular is working with as far as developing their 3G network NTTDOCOMO. While Verizon wireless is owned primerily by Vodafone (45% worth) who by the way tried to get Verizon to use GSM technology several years ago!
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PhoenixAshes

Jan 5, 2005, 8:19 PM
I posted earlier about an article I read about recent Siemens tests of the OFDM technology that was also doing 1 gig downloads.
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tropicalhaven

Aug 31, 2005, 8:58 PM
OFDM is from Flarion, which was (or is being) acquired by QualComm...

Supposedly, Qualcomm might be able to use that to offer 4G services...maybe CDMA as we know it has no future.

But, will that have any impact with GSM family? It seems doubtful that Qualcomm would co-operate with GSM in terms of a new technology, unless GSM is willing to license it for royalties...
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Dan717

Jan 6, 2005, 6:56 AM
Too bad we're not in Japan.
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akaszuba

Jan 5, 2005, 10:03 AM
rambofone said:
Shouldn't Cingular really be concentrating on improving their poor coverage?


I can't speak for everyone, but my Cingular coverage is great, and my coverage is all I really care about lol. So as long as it's working fine for me, I'm happy. If someone elses Cingular phone across the country says "No Service", thats really not my problem nor will it make me think twice about switching to any other carrier.
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Dan717

Jan 5, 2005, 10:12 AM
Based upon my obeservations I think Cingular should continue doing what its doing. The great thing about UMTS and HSPDA is that because its actually a W-CDMA technology we won't have to worry about the amount of users per tower as we do right now.

That is the only advantage that VZW has right now. The biggest plus of CDMA is that because it is a spread spectrum technology they need alot less towers to accomodate the same amount of users that Cingular has. I go by quality of network vs. number of Cell towers because I remember back when there were analog towers everywhere but that didn't mean you were going to get a good signal.
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Stevo2k4

Jan 5, 2005, 12:11 PM
Dan717 said:
Based upon my obeservations I think Cingular should continue doing what its doing. The great thing about UMTS and HSPDA is that because its actually a W-CDMA technology we won't have to worry about the amount of users per tower as we do right now.

That is the only advantage that VZW has right now. The biggest plus of CDMA is that because it is a spread spectrum technology they need alot less towers to accomodate the same amount of users that Cingular has. I go by quality of network vs. number of Cell towers because I remember back when there were analog towers everywhere but that didn't mean you were going to get a good signal.


Bravo... I'm clapping right now. Total agreement here.

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jramossteel

Jan 9, 2005, 1:36 PM
Dan717 said:
Based upon my obeservations I think Cingular should continue doing what its doing. The great thing about UMTS and HSPDA is that because its actually a W-CDMA technology we won't have to worry about the amount of users per tower as we do right now.

That is the only advantage that VZW has right now. The biggest plus of CDMA is that because it is a spread spectrum technology they need alot less towers to accomodate the same amount of users that Cingular has. I go by quality of network vs. number of Cell towers because I remember back when there were analog towers everywhere but that didn't mean you were going to get a good signal.



I can not agree more... That is perfectly stated..

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