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Sprint Bags New WiMax Devices, Talks LTE Plans

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sp_5015

Mar 29, 2012, 11:28 AM
WINNING. Is Sprint about to really turn the ship and begin some domination??
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JBlaze74

Mar 29, 2012, 11:49 AM
Not sure about winning. It depends on how fast they can implement LTE. I now prepare myself for the Sprint haters to comment about the waste of money to implement WiMax. Not that they're wrong, but I'm ready for this thread to explode, lmao.
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duncan38d

Mar 29, 2012, 12:17 PM
Lol don't ever put winning and sprint in the same sentence. Eventually metro pcs will buy out sprint because even metro knows LTE over Wimax sprint= stupid people running incredible network terribly
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Jayshmay

Mar 29, 2012, 12:57 PM
Putting LTE on 800/1900mhz are some good decisions, give them that.
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Luar

Apr 1, 2012, 9:15 AM
Come on know play nice. you MUST know why they implemented WIMAX , it has beed discussed here in phonescoop at least 10,000,000 times. But it is nice to see them implementing LTE faster then I thought they might be able to. Not winning but gathering more RESPECT. ( For Now )
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sp_5015

Mar 29, 2012, 12:17 PM
hahaha haters always come out when Sprint is mentioned. People always forget/or don't realize that in order for that Nextel deal to go down they had to use certain spectrum for 4G, and Wimax was ready to go. It was either use it or lose it....figured i'd get that out there before somebody brings it up..
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Jayshmay

Mar 29, 2012, 12:55 PM
I wonder if they will keep smartphone data unlimited on LTE.
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sp_5015

Mar 29, 2012, 1:01 PM
They have more than enough spectrum to allow them to keep unlimited data. I think eventually...all carriers will have no choice but to revert back to unlimited data.
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atandtrep

Mar 29, 2012, 3:00 PM
i'm pretty sure it is the opposite.
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sp_5015

Mar 29, 2012, 3:09 PM
just like how they gouged you with minutes, then texts, now data? you honestly think as the years go on, and more and more people use data, carriers are going to limit data even more?? that is not even realistic...
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JBlaze74

Mar 29, 2012, 4:28 PM
May not be realistic, but the fact of the matter is that carriers are getting away with data caps and throttling now. About the only way they'll ever change their minds regarding data limits is if Sprint becomes the market leader with unlimited data. If that time ever comes, then we can expect policy changes from big red and big blue. But until then, I honestly don't see a "profitable" idea going away.
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Vmac39

Mar 29, 2012, 1:05 PM
Hmmmm, that WOULD be a good excuse for them to get away from unlimited or at least only offer it for 3G connection and in time, when 3G becomes a distant memory, so will unlimited. But, they may offer the largest gig pack of all carriers, though. I'm thinking, 10-15gigs for around sixty-five bucks.
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JBlaze74

Mar 29, 2012, 3:07 PM
Not sure what they're going to do. When they first launched WiMax, the mobile broadband was unlimited because they had no way to track usage. Once they figured out how to track it, they put 4G (WiMax) broadband plans on the same tier structure they had for 3G. It's possible that they will run in to the same problem with LTE. I don't see unlimited data going away anytime soon simply because it is a good selling point.
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MarryTheNight

Mar 29, 2012, 2:29 PM
JBlaze74 said:
Not sure about winning. It depends on how fast they can implement LTE. I now prepare myself for the Sprint haters to comment about the waste of money to implement WiMax. Not that they're wrong, but I'm ready for this thread to explode, lmao.


Well it was a waste. They would be right to say WiMax was a mistake. Especially deploying it on a band like 2.5GHz. They had no choice anyway right as WiMax was only designed to work on that and 2.6GHz???

What I don't understand is that if Sprint had the G-Band spectrum already, why didn't go with LTE? People say it wasn't ready. What wasn't ready? Verizon did it, MetroPCS of all carriers did it and they have the least spectrum of all. You just hav...
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crood

Mar 29, 2012, 3:15 PM
The WiMAX network was started over a year before Verizon started deploying LTE. Clearwire ran out of money and Verizon overtook them pretty quickly.
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sp_5015

Mar 29, 2012, 3:25 PM
Well put Crood, and at that point, the standard wasn't chosen yet...it was still up in the air between wimax and LTE. It could have been the case that sprint made a good bet..but it didn't work out that way. Wimax was ready for commercial release, and LTE wasn't..
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MarryTheNight

Mar 29, 2012, 5:57 PM
sp_5015 said:
Well put Crood, and at that point, the standard wasn't chosen yet...it was still up in the air between wimax and LTE. It could have been the case that sprint made a good bet..but it didn't work out that way. Wimax was ready for commercial release, and LTE wasn't..


Doesn't matter. The industry was going LTE. No excuses! None. Sprint knew this well in advance but made a very bad business move by going with Clear and WiMAX and came back to bite them in the arse.

Sprint's problem was that they wanted to first to the finish line but didn't realize they didn't have enough fuel to get there. Hesse has got to go.
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sp_5015

Mar 29, 2012, 6:32 PM
Wimax was ready to be deployed in the timeframe given by the govt ...LTE was not. They used it, got to keep it and can redeploy with LTE...instead of losing the spectrum all together so I don't think it was all that dumb.
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Jarahawk

Mar 29, 2012, 6:52 PM
Rolling Eyes

Damn it is so easy to tell someone else how to flush money down the drain. You aren't even trying to listen. Sprint had this spectrum which they were awarded because they were forced off of the Public Safety spectrum but the caveat was they had to use it within a certain time frame. Wi-Max was ready and LTE WASN'T. There simply was no way they could sit on the spectrum. It was use it or lose it.
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Jarahawk

Mar 29, 2012, 6:45 PM
WiMax was ready. LTE wasn't. The spectrum was use or lose. What do YOU think Sprint should have used it for if not WiMax?
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JBlaze74

Mar 29, 2012, 6:59 PM
Never said they shouldn't have used it. Cost/benefit analysis would have to determine how good or bad an idea it was. Personally, I work for Sprint, but I enjoy haters and fanboys duking it out on here. That was really all I was saying.
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crood

Mar 29, 2012, 3:18 PM
Domination? That's pretty unlikely. They're well behind Verizon & AT&T in deploying LTE and still have to support WiMax for a couple of years, at least. That's going to cost money, as will the LTE buildout.
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sp_5015

Mar 29, 2012, 3:27 PM
2 words my friend...Network Vision....GET SOME!!!!!! hahaha i'm kidding. but i don't think sprint will be in terrible shape at all in the years to come.
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crood

Mar 29, 2012, 9:49 PM
I didn't say they would be. However, to say they'll dominate when they're far behind, will have 2 incompatible 4G Networks to support, and are already losing money is overly optimistic, bordering on fantasy.
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sp_5015

Mar 30, 2012, 4:43 AM
nobody said they are going to dominate anything right away. you are putting words in my mouth. i said "turn the ship". and that analogy alone means a slow transition. literally taking the phrase in its context, no water bound ship can 'turn around quickly'...the formula for success is starting to be carried out. it could take years. there are so many variables to consider, but if they carry out what they are setting to do right now, they very well could be a profitable company in the future...barring any mistakes or mergers with other carriers.
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TheNexxuvas

Mar 30, 2012, 9:54 AM
Not too mention, we are saving a crap ton of money (in the billions) for shuttering the Nextel network. It's going to make up a big money difference as it gets repurposed for CDMA/LTE. That's money in my companies pocket. Don't have to run an outdated nextel site, and they put up the new Sprint Network Vision Ericsson Modular Base stations which run way more efficient. That adds value, plus, puts the good spectrum into use on 850 for CDMA, and readies the LTE deployment on that as well.

They also go their notes approved too, so the extra cash needed for some of these upgrades is paid for in full now.

I wouldn't expect analysts Bankruptcy doomsday scenario to hit at all, as they don't really know what the heck is really going on behind...
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