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JBlaze74

Mar 23, 2012, 6:53 PM
I expect to see alot more of this in the future. AT&T is still stinging from the rejection, so anything that goes wrong with TMO they'll say they could have avoided. Classic case of sour grapes in reverse.
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Vmac39

Mar 23, 2012, 8:31 PM
As true as that may be, it doesn't mean they're wrong either. We will never really know if the merger would have beneficial or not. Everything was based on statistics and history, not a definitive answer to what was going to happen. Whoever, with the money that TMO got and/or receiving from ATT...if I remember reading it correctly, 4 billion dollars! Why not use some of that money to keep open the call centers? But, on the other side of things, we don't know how many, if any, of these employees are being offered positions elsewhere in the company.

I realize that a lot of people don't have a lot of love for ATT, because of their attempt to purchase TMO but, thinking objectively is what is needed here.
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planethulk

Mar 24, 2012, 8:37 AM
I agree. Think objectively. So ATT is basically upset that they weren't allowed to fire these people themselves.
Let's be real here. If ATT would have bought Tmobile, they would have only postponed this layoff and ATT's layoff numbers would probably be higher as they have shed many more jobs than this during previous buyout/merger processes.

The FCC cited this as one of the reasons that ATT should not buy Tmobile. Because the layoffs would be greater than if Tmobile stayed it alone.
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Jarahawk

Mar 24, 2012, 9:17 AM
I agree.
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Vmac39

Mar 24, 2012, 9:53 AM
Fair enough. I'm not claiming to be right or wrong here. However, TMO claims that they are going to offer jobs in the remaining 17 of the 24 call center to 1,400 of the 3,300 people currently employed in the seven being shut down. I'm sure these call centers aren't right next door to each other, so how many of these employees will actually be in a position to take advantage of the offer? Besides, what happens to the those 1,400 and the other employees, when TMO decides that they need to cut seven more call centers?

So, as you said, postponement of further job lose is in the air. In the end, the refusal of the merger really had nothing to do with the lose of jobs, as you also pointed out, this was one of the reasons the FCC denied the mer...
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planethulk

Mar 24, 2012, 4:20 PM
Vmac39 said:
If ATT really wanted to prove a point, they should hire all the employees who's jobs are being cut.


And there you have the truth of the matter. The end. ๐Ÿ™‚
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AtTheMet

Mar 24, 2012, 8:31 PM
A hiring move that big would only be required if a very large amount of new subs came in.
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planethulk

Mar 25, 2012, 7:37 PM
AtTheMet said:
A hiring move that big would only be required if a very large amount of new subs came in.



Then ATT should probably STFU.
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Vmac39

Mar 26, 2012, 7:06 AM
Yeah, that was more of a out of the way statement. I realize that would never happen, even if it were just the remaining 1,400.
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Jarahawk

Mar 24, 2012, 5:46 PM
http://www.phonearena.com/news/FCC-responds-to-AT-Ts » ... ร‚ยป

"...the FCC responded with a short statement that basically said that AT&T's own confidential documents relating to the deal had projected job losses. With that comment, the FCC was saying that even had the agency green lit the deal, there still would have been layoffs anyway. And to make matters worse for AT&T, redacted documents belonging to the mobile operator show that had the merger gone through, AT&T would have eliminated more than the 3,300 employees affected by T-Mobile's call center closing."

"The FCC didn't know for sure what would have happened..."

Yeah, they do.
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AtTheMet

Mar 24, 2012, 8:29 PM
planethulk said:
I agree. Think objectively. So ATT is basically upset that they weren't allowed to fire these people themselves.
Let's be real here. If ATT would have bought Tmobile, they would have only postponed this layoff and ATT's layoff numbers would probably be higher as they have shed many more jobs than this during previous buyout/merger processes.

The FCC cited this as one of the reasons that ATT should not buy Tmobile. Because the layoffs would be greater than if Tmobile stayed it alone.



If we look at at&t (Cingular) history, one of the best things about their takeovers is that everyone (except most senior level positions) kept their jobs. It's funny that no one ever points that out.
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216dilbert

Mar 25, 2012, 1:25 PM
"If we look at at&t (Cingular) history, one of the best things about their takeovers is that everyone (except most senior level positions) kept their jobs. It's funny that no one ever points that out."

What?

AtTheMet

What?
Everyone except...
So the store closures resulted in? Merger of call centers and outsourcing overseas caused...
Not one layoff?
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