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AT&T: P2P Apps on Mobile Phones, Laptop Cards Not Allowed

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phonerep01

Jul 31, 2008, 9:29 AM

More specifically:

Just so i'm clear on this, would an example of a P2P application be something like streaming a movie on my netflix? or watching youtube clips?
A p2p program is like limewire, morpheus, kazaa and others like that. Where you can search for music, videos, programs and other contect and then download it to your computer.
No. P2P programs are networks that allow you to get files from other "peers". Examples are BitTorrent or LimeWire. This doesn't include YouTube or iTunes. I think they have problems with people downloading large files. I download Linux ISO images all ...
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P2P networks don't just instigate lots of download bandwidth. They also instigate a lot of UPload bandwidth. They also instigate a lot of TCP/IP connections. This puts a big load on any router, that already sorts out millions of packets just for voice...
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no there is a huge difference between streaming and p2p.

very few streaming services exceed 300k/s p2p the other hand will literally use as much bandwidth as it can find.

i my self down load a lot of torrents in fact last week alone i down load...
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imtrickedout

Jul 30, 2008, 2:26 PM

THATS WHY YOU GO WITH SPRINTS

CAUSE THEY SAY THEY DONT ALLOW IT EITHER BUT WHEN I WAS CAUGHT DOING IT THE JUST CONTACTED ME AND TOLD ME NOT TO DO IT DURING PEEK TIMES AND GAVE ME A BUNCH OF TIMES THAT WAS OK SO IF YOU DOWNLOADING MUSIC MEDIA MOVIES HAVE IT ALL SET UP WHILE YOU SLEEP ALL WILL BE DONE WHEN YOU WAKE UP AND YOU CAN BURN THEN
why would someone want to do this on a mobile network anyways. i can see once or twice on vacation or something, but otherwise, i'll stick to my 20/5 fiber connection at home for my P2P needs. i'll download my stuff a HELL of a lot faster there than a...
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I believe that AT&T did this intentionally to avoid getting hit with lawsuits against the music and movie industry over illegal downloading. I really don't think it has anything to do with bandwith.
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NapalmBBQ

Aug 1, 2008, 12:19 PM

AT&T the Bandwith Nazi

No bandwith for you! Surprised

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bones boy

Jul 30, 2008, 2:45 PM

More baloney by the cell companies...

... in this case, AT&T. I can understand the reasons why it would be bad to use P2P or stream on *any* network. What network admin wants to hear complaints all the time due to lack of bandwidth? But to spend billions of dollars on a 3G (and 4G to come) buildout so that users can access the internet in an "intermittent and bursty" manner? Ridiculous.

This is "CYA" for AT&T for when the lawsuits start - as the first person gets booted off AT&T's service for constantly using their Slingbox on their HSDPA connection.

By the way - what grown man uses the word "bursty"? Shocked
Good example there. The Slingbox. High bandwidth but not P2P. Let's see if that gets lumped in with this as well. Or even using Orb for that matter. Fine line to be toeing.
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LatinoGeek

Jul 30, 2008, 4:13 PM

ugh

But this is just "Bursting" with lawsuit goodness. At least they are upfront about it and mention it in their Contract terms.

Yet, despite the suppossed "technical" reason, they still are descriminating against a paticular application of they network. This arguement will fall flat when it's proven that there are other "sanctioned" apps that have a similar usage pattern.
Yeah, the buzzword of "net neutrality" comes to mind here if that would turn out to be the case. Bandwidth is one thing, but a specific class of apps being singled out has already gotten other ISPs in some hot water with the feds including both P2P a...
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stephen5688

Jul 30, 2008, 3:06 PM

So please tell me

How do I do this? This is a great way to get out of contract with them.
if you got phones it wont end the contract with that it will just end the contract with wireless cards and the easy way to do it is to download limewire or something of that sort and down load music pics or any kind of media
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psycho dramatic7

Jul 31, 2008, 11:27 AM

AT&T "Your world, delivered....eventually"

At&t needs to tell people the truth....that not only can their crappy over-priced network handle high bandwidth but that they don't want P2P used because they want you buying from them instead. TELL THE TRUTH YOU GREEDY DECEPTIVE CONS!! Wink
bwahahahaha Laughing
 
 
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