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Apple Announces the Dual-Mode CDMA/HSPA+ iPhone 4S

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Oct 4, 2011, 12:55 PM   by Eric M. Zeman   @phonescooper
updated Oct 7, 2011, 10:09 PM

Apple today revealed details about the next-generation iPhone, which is called the iPhone 4S. The design of the device is similar to the iPhone 4, but Apple claims that the inside is all new. It will run on Apple's A5 dual-core 1GHz processor, and will include dual-core graphics performance, which Apple says is seven times faster than the previous iPhone. Apple says that despite the increased processing power, the iPhone 4S will be able to reach 8 hours of 3G talk time, 14 hours of 2G talk time, 6 hours of 3G browsing, 9 hours of Wi-Fi browsing, 10 hours of video playback, and 40 hours of music playback. Apple has re-worked the antenna design of the device, which it says can intelligently switch between antennas for improved call quality. The iPhone 4S will support HSPA+ at 14.4Mbps down and 5.8Mbps up. It will also include support for CDMA-based 3G networks, making it a world device. It includes an 8-megapixel camera with autofocus, flash, backside illuminated CMOS sensor that collects 73% more light, infrared filter, and a lens rating of f2.4. Apple has concentrated on speeding up the performance of the camera, and claims that it can go from sleeping to taking the first shot in 1.1 seconds. It also records video at 1080p HD resolution, and supports macro (close-up) photography. The iPhone 4S comes in black and white. It will cost $199 for 16GB, $299 for 32GB, and $399 for 64GB. The iPhone 4 8GB will be available in black and white for $99. The iPhone 3GS 8GB will be available for free. Pre-orders start on October 7, and the device will be available October 14. It will be available from AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon Wireless.

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justfinethanku

Oct 5, 2011, 7:15 AM

I don't think this is a fail

Maybe I'm just drinking the kool-aid.

Maybe not.

But I think Apple's focus is right on with this new phone.

Better battery life
-I don't care how fast your phone is, how fast the internet is, or how big of a screen it has. If the battery is dead, good luck getting it to do anything useful.

Cloud functionality
-did anyone notice they modified iCloud? It will be STREAMING your music now, all of it. You can save it onto your phone or you can just listen when and where you want. On top of that, all of your documents, calendars, contacts etc... will be saved and automatically synced between devices.

Siri
-Comparable to Google voice in a couple of ways, until you realize it can set your alarm for you, check the weather for yo...
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do you work for apple? because that is copy paste lol Laughing
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Oh yes! your copy paste is the most intelligent comment ever! we can find the same info everywhere. soooo sure you work for the fruit
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I also don't understand the hate the iPhone 4S is receiving.

Just because they didn't make it a 4G capable device, give it a television sized screen, or put a 12mp camera on it doesn't make it a fail.

Siri in itself is an enormous upgrade/feat...
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This iPhone 4Gs once again falls behind other Smartphones in specs and features.

8Mp cameras have been on several phones for a while now so that isn't special. Oh... and I'm sure the iHeads will say that Apples camera is better becasue its an APPL...
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Tomdg07

Oct 5, 2011, 11:32 AM

ATTN APPLE:

apple, apple, apple.... why still different prices for storage size, and no screen choices. I have an idea that would certainly make your pockets fatter:
- include an external iSD card slot (make it a different size than regular micro sd cards)
- charge tripple the price for storage cards, shiping all models with stock 16gb memory (well it's apple so if they did this probably 8gb stock with external iSD slot)
- offer different size screens with structured pricing:
- - 3.5" = $199.99
- - 4.0" = $299.99
- - 4.5" = $399.99
Good idea with the screens, but personally I think apple has already cornered the market on their phones, I mean even with their chargers and such they are still the only ones no using microUsb. Apple would probably have some kind of reasoning for the...
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SellFone

Oct 5, 2011, 6:38 AM

iFail S

Apple had the opportunity to surpass its competitors in innovation and design for a strong 4th quarter and 2012, but simply played catch up. The upgrades were important to bring it up to higher-end smartphone standards, but lacks Apple new and exciting "must have" approach.

There will not be people camping out for this device and this further gives Android the time needed to dominate the market.

Also, for those that watched the entire presentation - the part when they brought up 4G and "they aren't going to get into the conversation about what is and isn't 4G" is outright pathetic.

This is a 3G phone and will be until its LTE on Verizon. 4GLTE is the only true, best is world class, 4G network.

Go Google!
What good it 4G if you have a phone that will only last 3-4 hours using it?
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Blazers4ever

Oct 4, 2011, 1:46 PM

Poor CDMA users

HSPA+ v. EVDO rev A? If I was a customer of Sprint or Verizon, I'd skip this and wait for the LTE device.
Is not the average consumer's strong suit.
They've all been terrible. Most of Verizon's LTE devices spec about 1/10th of the battery life of the iPhone 4s.

The Thunderbolt, Droid Charge, etc. have all been terrible devices.
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The 4s will not be HSPA+ it is HSDPA (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/0 4/iphone_4s_new_14_4_mbps_hsdpa_4g_speeds_won t_help_americans.html)

The difference between HSPA+ and HSDPA is pretty significant. Being that HSPA+ is the backhaul fo...
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WiWavelength

Oct 5, 2011, 2:17 PM

CDMA band classes?

The iPhone 4S CDMA1x EV-DO Rev A 800/1900 capability is somewhat ambiguous, as "800/1900 MHz" can refer to more than two different CDMA band classes.

Obviously, it supports the first two CDMA band classes:

*band class 0 (Cellular 850 MHz)
*band class 1 (PCS 1900 MHz)

But does the 4S support additionally any of these band classes?

*band class 3 (JTACS 800 MHz)
*band class 10 (SMR 800-900 MHz)
*band class 14 (PCS "G" block 1900 MHz)

KDDI au in Japan is set to offer the 4S, so it would seem that "800 MHz," in this case, does include band class 3 capability. Band classes 10 and 14 matter only to Sprint, which may deploy CDMA1x, LTE, or a mix of both in its reconfigured SMR 800-900 MHz and/or PCS "G" 1900 MHz spectrum.

AJ
To follow up my own post, I examined the FCC OET certification documents for the iPhone 4S. The tests on file with the FCC do not indicate that the 4S supports band class 10 nor 14. So, if Sprint does deploy CDMA1x 800-900 (using its SMR 800-900 MHz...
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Sway Dc5

Oct 5, 2011, 11:24 AM

I don't understand...

And maybe its cause I'm not really a big fan of Apple, but its
the iPhone 4s, not the iPhone 5. Hasn't the "s" always been
just an upgraded version of the previous phone? It's got a
better processor, better graphics, siri, better antenna, better
battery life, and a better camera. Sounds like an upgraded
version of the 4 to me...
Yes, it could have been a bit thinner, but its not that thick to
begin with. And who doesn't get use to the size of there phone
after just a short time? 4G, okay legitimate complaint. But the
battery kill is a definitely downside. I live in a 4G area, and
never use it. I'll end up buying the 4s personally simply
because I was planning to upgrade soon anyway, as my EVO is
starting to crap out. (I've h...
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The problem here, is that technology and interests in the wireless industry, are progressing faster and faster within one year time frames.

It is understandable that the "s" in Apple's iphone editions has historically defined the upgrade for the ...
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It's not a branch new phone, its exactly what you said. For someone like you, coming from an older device its a worthy upgrade. For someone who already owns an Iphone 4, its not worth it at all when they can just upgrade the software.
AudibleNarcotic

Oct 5, 2011, 4:08 PM

Will the SIRI Personal Assitant...

Alert you if you are holding your phone wrong? Laughing
XMegadeathX

Oct 4, 2011, 1:29 PM

hahaha

And the sheep will come in droves for this weak updated phone.
There wasn't exactly great excitement over the Verizon iPhone, which has turned out to be far less successful than was initially believed.

I really do think that the 'iPhone fad' may be dying down...I'm not saying it is going to disappear anytime s...
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Dakidobf

Oct 5, 2011, 3:54 PM

Worth the upgrade???

I'm an Android user, but not an Apple basher. I've used my friends Iphone and its great, but is this I4S worth paying $200-$400 for if you already own an I4? Outside of the processor and the camera, the real upgrades are in the operating system which will be made available to I4 users. Most Iphone users will not notice the increase in speed between the A4 and the A5 chip. The I4S is a good phone if you're in the market to buy a new phone, but IMHO, you'd be an idiot to shell out $200-$400 for it if you already own an Iphone 4.
Snapper314

Oct 5, 2011, 2:21 PM

Apple has never been about Cutting Edge...

They have always been about simplicity.

The biggest strong point of the iPhone line is the easy of use. It might have had a few cutting edge features when it first came out but days, it has been surpassed by many others.

There are several phones with bigger & better screens, more powerful processors, better cameras, and far more customizable interfaces.

Apple fans like things SIMPLE.

They have never been the "deep thinking" crowd and prefer simplicity and form over substance and function.

Most Android users liked and understood the move Inception.

Most iPhone users didn't.

Nuff Said. Razz
I like this. +1
catch61

Oct 4, 2011, 2:48 PM

Apple is only catching up

I must say Im somewhat disapointed with the Apples announcement of the Iphone 4S. Most android phones already have a 1 gig processor, dual core, 8mp cameras etc. It seems Apple is playing catch up rather then doing something different. They are not even going to change the size of the phone which really frustrates me. It wont be thinner, probably not lighter but I bet it will be more expensive. Global version? Even if it is its nothing new to most phones these days. I'm talking about laser keyboards, live weather wallpapers! something cool, fun, exciting. All they did was catch up in the race for who has the best smartphone
I believe anyone to determine that is the person that has the phone..95% of people don't give an ish about the OS and just want something awesome without you shoving the phone down their neck to buy it.
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One problem... Android lags even with a good processor. It's a lot smoother than the first Android phones that came out but still not as smooth as the iPhone.

The only thing that has come out so far that operates as smoothly and instantly like iOS...
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justfinethanku

Oct 5, 2011, 10:24 AM

OMG! It looks the same!

It has a dual core processor now, upgraded camera, RAM, graphics and battery. NOTHING is the same as its predecessor except for the retina display and wildly popular design.

What, exactly, is disappointing everyone here?
The one unanimous complaint everyone (who I assume all own Android phones) has is "It's not LTE capable."

Big whoop. There are plenty of phones that ARE LTE capable, so if that's what they want, they should just go buy those phones.

I am 100% ha...
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marufio

Oct 4, 2011, 1:41 PM

Where is the real iphone?

I want a sleeker and bigger screen, not the iphone 4. Couldnt they have just put the same internals into the 3GS and called it a day.
In everyones dreams I have android and I even feel sorry for the apple fans right smh.
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iDont Care

Oct 4, 2011, 1:12 PM

FAIL

I'm actually shocked at Apple for this.
Not even HSPA+ 21 MBPS? 14.4 MBPS?
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I own an iphone, my kids do, I have to say this is one big mistake, they're taking their product for granted. I will not be getting this iP4s. I will be ordering one for my daughter because her present 3gs is damaged and she wants a replacement.
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Cellenator

Oct 4, 2011, 5:24 PM

How the hell can I be craving Mcdonald's?

Poison!
Sisyphus

Oct 4, 2011, 1:11 PM

Soooo

This is going to be a global version of the iPhone 4 with a dual core processor and a nicer camera?


Is that really it?
Yes thats really it..... Eh?
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Riots. In the streets.
 
 
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