VCAST Music Disables MP3 Playback
Jan 9, 2006, 4:02 PM by (staff)
Phonescoop has confirmed early reports that the VCAST Music upgrade for the VX8100 disables MP3 playback on the phone, at least when mp3s are saved directly to the memory card. Verizon clearly stated the music player would support mp3s stored on users' PCs. We have not been able to test this yet, but it is likely that Windows Media Player on the desktop transcodes the MP3 to a WMA file before saving it to the phone. If this is not the case and the phone is still capable of playing back MP3s without transcoding, they still can only be added to the phone's music library through the desktop. It is impossible to force the phone to add MP3 files to its music library from the device.
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CLARIFICATION: Verizon Wireless V CAST Music - MP3 vs. WMA Files
Basically, you can't download and purchase MP3 files on your phone, but you CAN transcode MP3s that are on your computer to use on your phone: "Microsoft's Windows Media Player 10 enables the transcoding of other audio file formats into WMA." The MP3s just remain on your computer.
Why is WMA a "lossy" format?
Welcome to yesterday.
Yes, all of that is known. What you may not know is that when WM10 auto-converts your mp3s, AACs, and whatever else you have to WMA, you take a hit on sound quality due to WMA being a lossy format.
WMA: WMA (Windows Media Audio) files use a Microsoft format, that, like MP3, is usually lossy (there is a lossless version available, but it is rarely used). It isn't as ubiquitous as MP3, due in part to the fact that it is perceived as a proprietary format and is supported on fewer devices and DVDs than MP3. On the positive side, though, WMA files have noticably better quality than MP3 files encoded at equivalent bitrates.
He's right. Check the Wiki.
mycool said:...SystemShock said:
Welcome to yesterday.
Yes, all of that is known. What you may not know is that when WM10 auto-converts your mp3s, AACs, and whatever else you have to WMA, you take a hit on
A lossy data compression method is one where compressing data and then decompressing it retrieves data that may well be d ...
No worries...Here's the fix!
1) Ensure that your phone has firmware version V06 on the device. Earlier versions do not need this guide and this guide has not been tested with firmwares that have not yet been released.
2) Enter the menu and press 0. You will then be prompted for a service code, which on Verizon phones should be 000000.
3) Scroll down to the last menu option which should be "Music Setting", at which point, you can select the MP3 function which will restore MP3 support. Chose this then exit out of the menu.
4) At this point MP3 playback will be available under Tunes and Tones (again).
5) To switch the dedicated music playback buttons to the MP3 player from the VCast music player, go to Tools, then Shortcut Key, and chose the MP3 Player ...
Wanna bet VZW blocks the hack on the next firmware update?
1) Can mp3s (or VCast music for that matter) be used as ring to...
Class Action #2!!!!
It is 100% illegal for Verizon to sell a device with a feature, and then take that feature from the customer with a software update. The customer bought the phone based on the functionality it had at the time of purchase and NEVER agreed to forfit those features at a future time. This will DEFINATELY lead to a lawsuit.
Great move Verizon.
You just lost 6 loyal customers to Sprint. My entire family will be leaving once our contracts expire.
Alltel did something similar (maybe it was nokia's fault) with the Nokia 6255i. With the newest update they fixed the MMS sending but took away the games and collections menus, which held user installed games ...
Flash machines will have v04 and v07 versions of the software on the phone. Employees are being instructed to inform the customer it will disable mp3 playback and it is reversible.
You DON't HAVE to get the software update UNLESS you WANT the new service that is to be OFFERED to the USER of the handset.
You want to keep the MP3 ? Don't BUY the new SERVICE.
Only being able to play WMA files is the kind of crap you're going to have to deal with if your provider gets in bed with Microsoft. And Microsoft these days seems...
This will hurt the service
Everyone loves to be able to download music to their phone, but to take away the ability to add music from your computer to your phone in mp3 version will deter some consumer, like me.
Question on the 950
when are you people going to figure out that its a PHONE. none and i mean none of the carriers are going to let you do things for free. when they see you getting away with something the just set up something to stop y
Ringtones and external memory
2-If someone has done it, how did you do it?
3- will the new ota update affect the ability to do this if it was possible?
4- I like monterey jack cheese best...have you ever had that on a grilled cheese (or toasted cheese- thats how they say it in lima, ohio..
1-Can you use your mp3s or wma files that you stored on your external memory (flash cards, mini flash and etc..) as your ringtones with the lg8100, sch950, moto e815, v710?
According to the User Manual NO! All you can do i...
But I'm gonna take a 'Wait and see' attitude on this until it actually happens.
How much loss?
Is it like Black and White or Black and just one shade under Black so most people (target customers) can't tell the difference?
Guess I Won't Be Usin' VCast Music Then..
Guess my iPod ain't goin' away anytime soon. 'tween the 100 song limit on the ROKR, VCast Music's stoopid messin' over of mp3s, an' Sprint's alleyway robbery $2.50/song charge, seems like all the big carriers are screwin' the pooch when it comes to music downloads. Therefore, who needs 'em?
The breakdown of things
The offers (PC):
Amp'd: N/A ??
Arguments coming from people that don't like the "new" service:
The only one that beats Verizon is Amp'd for OTA.
Well, as stated on this board many times Media Player 10 will auto-convert your MP3 files into WMA files for playback. This includes downloaded MP3 files or ripped MP3 files from your own personal collection.
MP3 to WMA Lossy format?-
Personally, I don't know enough about digital music encoding to know if Media Player 10 would convert it at a loss of quality or would be able to keep the quality ...
MP3 to WMA Lossy format?-
Personally, I don't know enough about digital music encoding to know if Media Player 10 would convert it at a loss of quality or would be able to keep the quality the same, so I refuse to
Ruh roh Raggy.
Reason for WMA requirement for Vcast Music
This is the reson that the music industry is so onboard with VZW's new service.
The only people that lose are the CHUCKLEHEADS who refuse to purchase anything legitimately and chose to pirate their entertainment.
VZW's new service blows every other service provider's offering out of the water from the word go. The music industry is so onboard with this service that at launch it will offer more songs than any other service has at the time of launch.
VZW's is the only product that gives the consumer the freedom to chose to download right from the handset or to go home to the PC and download it to the PC. The reason that the ...
And it isn't even true. AAC format would've given Verizon DRM (digital rights managemnt).. its not like its a WMA-only thing, lol.
"The music industry is SO onboard with it"? Sure, they're o...
What's the big deal?
If you need it so badly - you can get it.
So now I have to use WMP10 to convert my mp3s to WMAs. It's going to take less then a minute for someone WHO KNOWS cellphones and computers well (or med/well ).
Besides FYI, WMA has a better compression rate (better or the same sound/less space).
The bottom line, if you don't like it, DON'T GET IT! It's not that hard. There's no such thing as a perfect cellphone of perfect service... For the geeks here, here's the math equation CELLPHONE+SERVICE=CONST
Don't shoot me, I'm just the pianist, I play as well as I can
MP3 players and formats
MP3 players can play multiple formats (ipod can play AAC, MP3; Creative Zen can play MP3 and WMA, etc), why can't the phone player?
Because Microsoft insisted that the VCast Music-capable phones play on...
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REALLY BIG QUESTION
THE V710 All OVER AGAIN
Hea Verizon GET OVER IT.
Maybe there will be a SEEM edit to re-enable this feature.
It's all about the $$$$$
Unless you can't b/c of the area you live in, get GSM, an unlocked phone and have all the features you want.
MP3 lockout temporary???
"Verizon dismissed accusations on certain Web logs that this decision was made for any ulterior profit motive such as forcing users to repurchase music through the V Cast store.
Instead, the company said, the MP3 capability was temporarily disabled so that it can be integrated into the V Cast application, rather than appearing as a separate application that might confuse customers.
Verizon Wireless also emphasized that the upgrade is voluntary: Customers who'd prefer to keep their current MP3 capabilities over an immediate upgrade to V Cast Music can wait until the next edition of the application is released at an undetermined date."
Interesting....maybe this is all ju...
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